Why don't dealerships do Scavenger oil changes
#51
03-24-2012, 07:52 AM
Ultimate HDF Member
Wow, don't address any of the points I made, just tell me I need stress management.
#52
03-24-2012, 08:06 AM
The manufacturer has tested the engine and determined the correct oil change interval, without using the unnecessary scavenger gizmo.
If you think your oil is contaminated, have an oil sample analyzed, you will find the oil is good, probably long past the 5K interval, even using cheap wal mart oil.
Seems to me that most people that go nuts over products like this, and go nuts over oil have little experience inside an engine other than changing oil.
#54
03-24-2012, 08:48 AM
AMEN brother! It's the filter, the filter, the filter!!! This "scavenger" thing isn't a terrible idea , IMO, from the standpoint of getting all the oil out at your change interval that you can is a good thing, but is it significantly beneficial? If you are changing your oil on a short schedule, ( I don't let mine go beyond 2000 miles), use a good synthetic and a GREAT filter, there is probably no appreciable benefit to this scavenger, other then someone gaining financially. The company that markets them certainly provides no evidence or research that demonstrates either a performance or longevity benefit. They want you to take their "word" that it is the way it is...... hmmmmmm...sound like a MoCo we all know??? 
#55
03-24-2012, 09:23 AM
My primary oil stays pretty clean, so does the transmission oil. I don't see what the big controversy is about. If you think that HD is the word of God concerning oil changes then leave the dirty oil in, I do not care, it isn't my bike. But why don't you not do a Stage 1? HD made your bike with an air cleaner that doesn't introduce enough air into the engine, so just leave it alone. And don't monkey about with the software on the EFI bikes, leave it at the factory setting, after all , that is the way the all- mighty HD MOCO made it, so don't try to improve it, don't fu(k with it , you can't improve it so leave it the hell alone. Don't change your seat, bars, mirrors, pipes, paint or anything else, just don't fu(k with it, it is perfect the way it came from the factory. HD is just an assembler people, we start doing things right away that don't have the blessing of the all knowing HD MOCO, but some draw the line at improving the way they change the oil. If you actually think that leaving a quart of nasty oil in your bike is a good idea then by all means do it! Hell, if that makes sense to you then don't change it at all, just leave it the fu(k alone like you do all the rest of the stuff since there is no possible way to improve on anything HD does. As for me I will do things the way I want to do them and anyone who doesn't like it is free to not do it. I don't give a green godddamn what you do. But don't tell me the way I do things is wrong, unnecessary , stupid or anything else, I don't care what you think any more than you care what I think.
#56
03-24-2012, 10:27 AM
I used one of these on my Heritage, I won't argue if it was really necessary or really did any real good but I felt good about getting almost a whole quart of old oil out of the engine that wouldn't other wise have been gone. With the Heritage you did the oil change first, then pulled the return hose and let the old oil pump itself out. I traded the Heritage off and now own an EG, with this engine scheme you drop the oil out, hook up a hose to new quart of oil, start the engine and hope it sucks this oil in while what is left in the engine is draining out the bottom. Scavengers web site has a video that shows this process. I'll tell you I am really nervous about starting up my engine without any oil in it and hoping that it works the way they say it will. I was pretty happy with using the scavenger process on my Heritage, but I think I'll pass on my new bike. I use good oil and change it every 4000 miles or so, so I'm not really worried. For those that chose to do this, good for you it cannot hurt to get that old oil out of there!
Cheers,
Paul in Colorado
Cheers,
Paul in Colorado
#57
03-24-2012, 10:29 AM
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#59
03-24-2012, 10:46 AM
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The strangest part is all these "men" getting all emotional and hostile over a damn tool! 
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#60
03-24-2012, 10:53 AM
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change the oil myself.... it's a secret operation I'm not sharing cause I'm sensitive......
and I drink my beer with a straw geezer, no worries here
and I drink my beer with a straw geezer, no worries here