General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

soldering gun/iron/station?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #21  
Old 01-12-2012 | 07:22 PM
dieselguy65's Avatar
dieselguy65
Tourer
Joined: Aug 2011
Posts: 432
Likes: 2
From: la porte, texas
Default

something for sure wrong with your solder method. if a wire is going to break, it will be from a crimp connector. when you crimp it deforms and causes a weak spot, no different than any metal when you force it to change shape.



Originally Posted by Stubby3492
Personally, I will never solder a wire on my bike again, or anything else that vibrates.

A couple years ago, I had apes on my bike and I soldered the extension wires.
I did a very neat job, carefully sodered the wires together, then slipped a heatshrink over the solder joint, and when I had them all done, I put a larger heatshrink tube over all the wires to make it a waterproof harness.

It was fine for a couple years, until I was on a solo road trip, and my bike quit in the desert in Nevada. there was no power to the run switch, and I was stranded. I pulled the tank off and all the wiring looked fine, but checking it with a test light, I could tell there was a break in the gray wire. I slit open the large heatshrink tubing, and exposed the individual solder joints that also had heatshrink tubing.
Everything looked okay, so I slit open the heatshrink on the gray wire and the wire was broken right beside the solder joint. I slit open all the rest of them and found that most of them were almost broken off, some were only holding by a couple of strands.
The solder joints were fine, but the heat from soldering makes the wire right beside the solder joint brittle and with vibration it will eventually break off.

I temporarily fixed them with some red crimp connectors from Wally World, but when I got home, the first thing I did was redo the extension wires using crimp connectors. I used the red ones with the heat heatshrink already on them with the glue on the inside that melts to the wires for extra strain relief and water proofing..

Then I heatshrunk the bundle of wires together again like a harness. This is a permanent fix.

Do yourself a favor, and don't solder wires on a motorcycle or any thing that vibrates.

As far as I know, they don't solder wires cars, aircraft or marine applications.


-
 
  #22  
Old 01-12-2012 | 09:57 PM
murph's Avatar
murph
Thread Starter
|
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,295
Likes: 22
From: Fort Pierce, Florida
Default

Thanks for so many replies

How does this one sound. It is a Weller 200/260 watt soldering gun.

Weller® Soldering Gun Kit (D550PK)


Or how about this one.

Cooper Tools Soldering Station

 

Last edited by murph; 01-12-2012 at 10:32 PM. Reason: found one
  #23  
Old 01-13-2012 | 03:07 PM
dbc58's Avatar
dbc58
Road Captain
Joined: Jun 2011
Posts: 584
Likes: 2
From: La Verne, Ca
Default

For the gun, that one is way to big. You want the Weller 8200.
For the station that one is just about right. You will probably need to use it at the highest setting.
BTW Weller = Cooper
 
  #24  
Old 01-16-2012 | 05:23 PM
murph's Avatar
murph
Thread Starter
|
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,295
Likes: 22
From: Fort Pierce, Florida
Default

I'm leaning towards the 40 watt station. Looks like that will do the trick.
 
  #25  
Old 01-16-2012 | 05:34 PM
Just Dave's Avatar
Just Dave
Ultimate HDF Member
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 6,593
Likes: 11
From: Spring Hill, Fl
Default

This is what I use Murph. http://www.bernzomatic.com/PRODUCTS/...3/Default.aspx I even have a couple of nice weller guns but this micro torch is so much finer to use. Works great.
 
  #26  
Old 01-16-2012 | 05:35 PM
emperor wurm's Avatar
emperor wurm
Road Warrior
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,805
Likes: 95
From: Corona, Ca
Default

harbor freight $3.00
 
  #27  
Old 01-16-2012 | 07:08 PM
SportsterBob's Avatar
SportsterBob
Club Member
Joined: Feb 2008
Posts: 18,575
Likes: 4
From: Norfolk, VA
Default

A 40W Iron will serve you well for wiring...Years ago I used the larger irons only to have the solder roll right off the strands due to excessive heat.

Originally Posted by murph
I'm leaning towards the 40 watt station. Looks like that will do the trick.
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
robbyville
Dyna Glide Models
52
04-15-2015 04:46 PM
drnk_n_publick
Dyna Glide Models
36
05-20-2011 02:07 PM
kylant
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
6
11-05-2007 11:15 AM
JSW
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
7
02-23-2007 07:09 PM
ApeKing
Ignition/Tuner/ECM/Fuel Injection
9
06-19-2005 02:43 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:54 AM.