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Old 01-07-2012 | 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
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I don't care how many people say "it's a wet clutch and it won't hurt it", I don't subscribe to that philosophy.
I agree, it's a crutch for the less than able.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Ron750
I think driving a stick, made learning how to shift a bike much easier. I can't imagine learning how to ride a motorcycle if you don't know how to drive a manual transmission car.
However did I ride a motorcycle as a kid growing up before I could drive. My boys racing motocross are having a hard time too, oldest one just got his permit and we don't have a stick anymore, what are we going to do? Just bustin your ***** a little don't get in a twist. But I think it actually goes the other way more often. There are millions of kids who ride little dirt bikes and scoots and it makes it easier to grasp the concept when they get in the car with a stick shift. Just sayin!!
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by 2black1s
You use the "friction zone"?

Only when necessary and to the least extent possible!

I don't care how many people say "it's a wet clutch and it won't hurt it", I don't subscribe to that philosophy. I agree a wet clutch is more tolerant to slippage than a dry clutch, but the same principles still apply - the more you slip it, the sooner you will be replacing it.

I'll practice the "friction zone" in a parking lot when you let me borrow your bike LOL.
Originally Posted by Snarly
I agree, it's a crutch for the less than able.
Ha. On the 2 fuel injected bikes I've owned, when doing a low speed u-turn, without using the clutch it will either buck or stall. And it doesn't hurt the clutch any more than stop-n-go traffic. Which btw, in CA, we can cut lanes.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Deuuuce
Ha. On the 2 fuel injected bikes I've owned, when doing a low speed u-turn, without using the clutch it will either buck or stall. And it doesn't hurt the clutch any more than stop-n-go traffic. Which btw, in CA, we can cut lanes.
I never said I don't use the clutch... I said I prefer to minmize the time in, and use of, the friction zone.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 01:54 AM
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i wonder if the motorman can chime in and tell us how often he replaces the clutch in his bikes he uses for training?
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:05 AM
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Help me here. How does the friction zone add to the balance/stability of the bike?

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Greg
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:38 AM
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I'm not able to sound scientific, but it has something to do with the rotational power being applied to the rear wheel that helps keep the bike upright. Trust me, if you are slipping the clutch while dragging the rear break you can go Veeerrrrryyyyy slow. Ride like a pro explains it well, and it does work.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:47 AM
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Now you've got me thinking about my breathing!


Originally Posted by SgtSkiddz
Funny thing is that because of this thread I noticed it every time I used it today, where usually it's just like breathing, I just do it without thinking about it.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:56 AM
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Friction Zone is a phrase that comes up quite a bit in HD's Rider's Edge course. It's especially useful for initiating new riders who have never used a clutch. I have found it a very useful tool/skill on steep inclines where you have to stop. I agree, the FZ is your friend.
 
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Old 01-07-2012 | 10:59 AM
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I use the friction zone but only when I have to. I've been on rides with 2-300 bikes through town at 30 mph (parades). It rides about an hour and a half and I find it frustrating as hell to ride with that many guys who can't hold a straight line or speed up and slow down in front of you. I don't ride in parades anymore because of it. This has nothing to do with bikes but my wife drive a car with a 5 speed and she uses the friction zone enough that on some occaisions I can smell the clutch burning!
 



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