Harley Davidson sued over sales restrictions
#21
Such as dealer 1 sells gas tank by the rules at retail, dealer 2 sells it at a wholesale to a customer. Dealer 1 makes $100 profit and dealer 2 makes $75 profit. Dealer 1 says "that's not right, dealer 1 sells his next tank for 50% off and makes $50 and so on. The dealers will cut their own throats competing with each other, whether it's parts, labor or new bikes. The dealers compete with each other til there is no profit left and have to close their doors. There are established business practices that good mfgr's require, demand, franchise contract, for with dealers to protect the product they are trying to sell and to protect dealers from themselves.
#22
My money is on HD winning without much effort. The HD dealer just bit the hand that feeds them.
It is not nice to mess with mother nature.
The suit is not based on any applicable federal statute and lacks case law to reference.
I wonder how long St Paul HD will last. When I when by there last year they had a huge banner stating that they will not be undersold on any bike. So they have already made enemies of other HD dealers in the region.
Do not miss the point that HD actions came from the dealers meeting and complaints that the DEALERS wanted HD to address.
It is not nice to mess with mother nature.
The suit is not based on any applicable federal statute and lacks case law to reference.
I wonder how long St Paul HD will last. When I when by there last year they had a huge banner stating that they will not be undersold on any bike. So they have already made enemies of other HD dealers in the region.
Do not miss the point that HD actions came from the dealers meeting and complaints that the DEALERS wanted HD to address.
#23
The local dealers here offer discounts, HOG members, long time customers, store events, and everyone who purchases a bike gets 10% throughout their warranty period.
#24
ask yourself this: if you had a business and manufactured a product, would you be ok with someone selling your product on ebay for less money? especially someone that you have a contract with? i'd be pretty pissed.
#25
Such as dealer 1 sells gas tank by the rules at retail, dealer 2 sells it at a wholesale to a customer. Dealer 1 makes $100 profit and dealer 2 makes $75 profit. Dealer 1 says "that's not right, dealer 1 sells his next tank for 50% off and makes $50 and so on. The dealers will cut their own throats competing with each other, whether it's parts, labor or new bikes. The dealers compete with each other til there is no profit left and have to close their doors. There are established business practices that good mfgr's require, demand, franchise contract, for with dealers to protect the product they are trying to sell and to protect dealers from themselves.
#26
What's next, owners can't sell their used Harleys for less than MSRP.
Price fixing & collusion may be in play here. There's a new political climate out there today. If MoCo steps over the line there could be political pressure that fires MoCo leadership similar to GM.
#29
when I went into my local dealer to price out a tach, he wanted 20 bucks MORE than the Canadian msrp, even though he woulda still had to order it. and Harley tries to make it so I can't order it from any other dealer huh, which I guess might help my local guy, except for the fact that I was so mad that he wanted MORE than msrp that I never bought it.
We already get screwed enough on parts here in Canada. Good luck St pauls, its a new age in retail with the internet and some of these dealerships and parts stores should figure it out.
We already get screwed enough on parts here in Canada. Good luck St pauls, its a new age in retail with the internet and some of these dealerships and parts stores should figure it out.
#30
ask yourself this: if you had a business and manufactured a product, would you be ok with someone selling your product on ebay for less money?
For less money than what?
Assuming that all dealers pay the same price, it's the dealer's business what price he wants to re-sell a product for.
Are you suggesting that all Ford dealers should have to sell cars at the same price?
Every store that sells Sony TVs should have to sell TVs at the same price?
That makes no sense.
The manufacturer sells for whatever their market will bear. What the dealer sells that product for is their own damn business.
If one dealer is more aggressive and innovative, why shouldn't he be rewarded?
For less money than what?
Assuming that all dealers pay the same price, it's the dealer's business what price he wants to re-sell a product for.
Are you suggesting that all Ford dealers should have to sell cars at the same price?
Every store that sells Sony TVs should have to sell TVs at the same price?
That makes no sense.
The manufacturer sells for whatever their market will bear. What the dealer sells that product for is their own damn business.
If one dealer is more aggressive and innovative, why shouldn't he be rewarded?