OCC & PJD are not real bikers!
#11
I know that's right. I seen how they got their bikes to Sturgis.
#12
Bikers? I don't know. Not sure I've ever seen a real biker by the definitions that are thrown around here sometimes.
Bike Builders? I'd have to say yes. Two arguments have been made here. One is their style sucks. Well, everyone has a different style and likes different things. Some people may enjoy the theme bikes. Second is the bike assembler comments. Have you ever really watched the show? They fab up a lot of stuff on their own. Almost every bike they build on the show has some completely fabricated parts on it, and most of the other stuff the end up modding at some point. Hell, Paul Junior cut up the lights off the back of a Cadillac to build a rear fender a while back. Now they are also in the production business, of building "production" choppers, not much difference between that and a Honda Fury if you ask me. Of course nobody did ask me and all this is pointless anyway, who cares.
Bike Builders? I'd have to say yes. Two arguments have been made here. One is their style sucks. Well, everyone has a different style and likes different things. Some people may enjoy the theme bikes. Second is the bike assembler comments. Have you ever really watched the show? They fab up a lot of stuff on their own. Almost every bike they build on the show has some completely fabricated parts on it, and most of the other stuff the end up modding at some point. Hell, Paul Junior cut up the lights off the back of a Cadillac to build a rear fender a while back. Now they are also in the production business, of building "production" choppers, not much difference between that and a Honda Fury if you ask me. Of course nobody did ask me and all this is pointless anyway, who cares.
#13
They assemble for sure. Some parts are designed and made in house but I could do that to with a high dollar cnc waterjet. Only parts I see them "modify" are the rear fenders. I am with Twisted about Sr.
#14
I think its comical how people (that wrench or build) think they are better or any more "biker-ish" than the rest of the crowd. A bunch of "my **** is bigger than your ****" BS. I enjoy riding. You tool around with your bike more than me.... But I RIDE my bike more than you.... Who is the real "biker"? I don't care about anything but miles and destinations. If I gotta stop along the way to fix the bike (It is a Harley, after all) then I will.
Just remember that these guys were discovered. The network came to THEM. They didn't just wake up one day and say, "Lets start a show where we build bad *** choppers!" Someone discovered them, and their story, and their F'ed up family relationship and guess what?!?! All us "bikers" or riders or posers or whatever, WATCHED. I know I did and occasionally still do. The stuff they do is sweet. I think P. Jr does better crafted and more unique work than OCC does.
I bet my left AND right ********* that the guy that wrote the article would not pass up a deal where a network says they would love to pay them $50K/episode to watch him build bikes... And maybe slap around a bitc# every now and then.
****, they can film me ********** if they pay me enough money! Episodes would begin to be predictable, but thats not the point.
Ride and Let Ride, Live and Let Live.
What is a real biker any who???
Just remember that these guys were discovered. The network came to THEM. They didn't just wake up one day and say, "Lets start a show where we build bad *** choppers!" Someone discovered them, and their story, and their F'ed up family relationship and guess what?!?! All us "bikers" or riders or posers or whatever, WATCHED. I know I did and occasionally still do. The stuff they do is sweet. I think P. Jr does better crafted and more unique work than OCC does.
I bet my left AND right ********* that the guy that wrote the article would not pass up a deal where a network says they would love to pay them $50K/episode to watch him build bikes... And maybe slap around a bitc# every now and then.
****, they can film me ********** if they pay me enough money! Episodes would begin to be predictable, but thats not the point.
Ride and Let Ride, Live and Let Live.
What is a real biker any who???
#15
Bikers? I don't know. Not sure I've ever seen a real biker by the definitions that are thrown around here sometimes.
Bike Builders? I'd have to say yes. Two arguments have been made here. One is their style sucks. Well, everyone has a different style and likes different things. Some people may enjoy the theme bikes. Second is the bike assembler comments. Have you ever really watched the show? They fab up a lot of stuff on their own. Almost every bike they build on the show has some completely fabricated parts on it, and most of the other stuff the end up modding at some point. Hell, Paul Junior cut up the lights off the back of a Cadillac to build a rear fender a while back. Now they are also in the production business, of building "production" choppers, not much difference between that and a Honda Fury if you ask me. Of course nobody did ask me and all this is pointless anyway, who cares.
Bike Builders? I'd have to say yes. Two arguments have been made here. One is their style sucks. Well, everyone has a different style and likes different things. Some people may enjoy the theme bikes. Second is the bike assembler comments. Have you ever really watched the show? They fab up a lot of stuff on their own. Almost every bike they build on the show has some completely fabricated parts on it, and most of the other stuff the end up modding at some point. Hell, Paul Junior cut up the lights off the back of a Cadillac to build a rear fender a while back. Now they are also in the production business, of building "production" choppers, not much difference between that and a Honda Fury if you ask me. Of course nobody did ask me and all this is pointless anyway, who cares.
Fabricating a few parts on an otherwise built by numbers chopper kit is just not a high enough standard for me to call them true bike builders.
I think back to guys like Burt Munroe (he was featured in a movie called The World's Fastest Indian) who cast his own freaking PISTONS and rebuilt every engine he ever rode on...that is a bike builder in my opinion.
#16
Lost respect for them a few years ago at Sturgis....they were charging for autographs.......what a bunch of dicks!
#17
I don't recall them acting like or ever saying they were real bikers. Paul senior is a dick head and a nut job. His father license should be burned cause he sucks. Overpriced bikes that couldn't hold a candle to mine. Paul jr.....I actually like him. Mike too. Big Paul I have no respect for.
#18
I think its comical how people (that wrench or build) think they are better or any more "biker-ish" than the rest of the crowd. A bunch of "my **** is bigger than your ****" BS. I enjoy riding. You tool around with your bike more than me.... But I RIDE my bike more than you.... Who is the real "biker"? I don't care about anything but miles and destinations. If I gotta stop along the way to fix the bike (It is a Harley, after all) then I will.
Just remember that these guys were discovered. The network came to THEM. They didn't just wake up one day and say, "Lets start a show where we build bad *** choppers!" Someone discovered them, and their story, and their F'ed up family relationship and guess what?!?! All us "bikers" or riders or posers or whatever, WATCHED. I know I did and occasionally still do. The stuff they do is sweet. I think P. Jr does better crafted and more unique work than OCC does.
I bet my left AND right ********* that the guy that wrote the article would not pass up a deal where a network says they would love to pay them $50K/episode to watch him build bikes... And maybe slap around a bitc# every now and then.
****, they can film me ********** if they pay me enough money! Episodes would begin to be predictable, but thats not the point.
Ride and Let Ride, Live and Let Live.
What is a real biker any who???
Just remember that these guys were discovered. The network came to THEM. They didn't just wake up one day and say, "Lets start a show where we build bad *** choppers!" Someone discovered them, and their story, and their F'ed up family relationship and guess what?!?! All us "bikers" or riders or posers or whatever, WATCHED. I know I did and occasionally still do. The stuff they do is sweet. I think P. Jr does better crafted and more unique work than OCC does.
I bet my left AND right ********* that the guy that wrote the article would not pass up a deal where a network says they would love to pay them $50K/episode to watch him build bikes... And maybe slap around a bitc# every now and then.
****, they can film me ********** if they pay me enough money! Episodes would begin to be predictable, but thats not the point.
Ride and Let Ride, Live and Let Live.
What is a real biker any who???
Biker is about a lot of things and slamming on the miles and getting to the next big vendor fest isn't in there , get over it .
#19
I was with Indian when they had the factory sell off after it all collapsed , Paul sr. showed to bone pick the parts warehouse . He was standing with the guy I needed some info from on prices to relay to perspective buyers and as I walk up he puff's the chest out and barks " autograph cost you $20 " should have seen the look on his face when I barked backed " Who the f*ck are you ? I need to talk to him " pointing at the VP . ******* to the hilt .
#20
I was with Indian when they had the factory sell off after it all collapsed , Paul sr. showed to bone pick the parts warehouse . He was standing with the guy I needed some info from on prices to relay to perspective buyers and as I walk up he puff's the chest out and barks " autograph cost you $20 " should have seen the look on his face when I barked backed " Who the f*ck are you ? I need to talk to him " pointing at the VP . ******* to the hilt .
^5 dude!