I can agree with the positive opinions of the OP and CaptJim above. Recently bought a "like new" Milwaukee jacket on ebay for well under half the original/bargain $230 price. XL fits me very well, would suggest one size larger when ordering. Great quality materials, features and fit, excellent value IMHO.

I am in no way sympathizing with Pakistani's, Chinese etc etc. Will leave the political discussion to others. But, for those that are so self richeous to claim that they refuse to buy foreign made goods, keep in mind if you threw all foreign goods out of your home right now it would be 90% empty. The reality is, we are all in a world economy and competition with cheap labor is very tough.

 

Haven't had the chance to ride with it much but no issues with the torso length so far. When I stand the bottom of the jacket is at the bottom part (or a hair below) of my belt buckle. It does lift a little when on the bike, but because the zipper ends about 1.5 inches below the top of the collar, the jacket is able to ride up a bit without jamming up into my neck, and also minimizes the pot belly look. Any length below my waist line when riding, the leather seems to bend and form around my lower body and doesn't push up as much as other jackets. Maybe because of the soft leather. I hope that make sense? LOL

I know on a custom made Langlitz the front rides high at or above the belt buckle, and that certainly will eliminate any lifting and bulking. But that's a custom made $1000 jacket. For an off the rack leather, this Milwaukee is the best fitting jacket I've owned. I've owned about a dozen over the years.

 

I've got a couple H-D jackets and a vest all in 2XL that fit great. I also have two LeatherUp jackets, one in 3XL (because that was the largest size of that particular model,) and my main riding jacket in a 4XL, which fits great. Here is a link to the latter: http://www.leatherup.com/p/Mens-Moto...ket/50124.html It is $110 now, but when I bought it it was $150. Incredible jacket with all the features...check it out.

 

I never bought a jacket from Leatherup but I've read posts from members on here that they're happy with the quality.

I decided this afternoon that I'm going to sell my Fox Creek. I'm going to measure it to provide good specs and probably put it on here to sell next week.

On another note. I looked on the Fox Creek website at armor for the Commander I have and the price is ridiculously expensive.....$250 for a set of armor (elbows, shoulders, arms and back). I don't know too much about the different levels of armor but when I compared prices I was shocked.

 

why is 250 dollars for CE approved armor "ridiculous" for someone who owns a dozen leather jackets?

I own two leather jackets. A "fashion" jacket I bought when I got my first real job 17 years ago, and my riding jacket, which I bought 2 years ago and will have for at least another 20.

CE approved knox armor sells here for less though:

http://www.britishmotorcyclegear.com/Body-Armor.asp

80 dollars for a complete set. So 250 seems a bit steep. Is it made in the US? maybe that's why?

SAS tech armor is more expensive though, if I recall.


This is a good read, too. Entertaining, and the guy is over the top, but I would like to meet this guy, (the writer), as he seems like a freaking character.

http://www.lostworldsinc.com/Motorcy..._Americana.htm

Some interesting quotes:

Specialist apparel like leather motorcycle and rugged wear was designed and made to do things in, to perform tasks in, not as the fashion and rebel-without-a-clue (to quote Tom Petty) statement it later became. Original motorcycle and outdoor clothing was functional, overbuilt and necessary. The tide began turning with THE WILD ONE (1954) with Marlon Brando -- the popular culture watershed first to connect motorcycle gear to postwar disenchantment and rebellion.
Compare, similarly, old and new denim jeans -- in the 1950s the concept of pre-washed, pre-broken in jeans would've been ludicrous, outside the mindset. Remnants of the old pioneer ethic, though fast disappearing, still resounded, if faintly: you broke in work clothing like your forebears had broken horses and soil. Jeans were still work clothing. But when people ceased to make and grow things and began service economy jobs, they adopted, as psychological compensation, jeans as the middle class uniform, as if unconsciously to assert a link to the soil (and nuclear war fear totem?). The middle class "Back to Nature" hypocrisy of the late 1960s is an extension of this mindset.


A kind of suicidal infantilism has mortally stricken America: now everything must be pre-chewed, pre-washed. (In the same way, politically correct language is sanitized pre-thought, viz. the identical descriptions of Raymond Shaw by the brainwashed GIs in The Manchurian Candidate (1962).) We recoil when we see someone on an expensive Harley or restored Indian in some pre-distressed, baby soft, logo-driven alleged motorcycle jacket. The image HD covets? Nope, the $$$. Like pre-aged Gibson Les Paul guitars for the wannabe legions. Lord! But babies need baby food. The loudest celebrants at pricey NY prime steakhouses? The Suspenders, the bank and money "cowboys!"




This guy is clearly a card short of a full deck, but... begrudgingly, he makes some good points.

 

I think you misread what I wrote. I never said I currently own a dozen leather jackets, I said I've "owned" a dozen or so. That's over a span of about 30 years. I only own 3 now. One crappy $100 jacket, a Fox Creek and this new Milwaukee.

Perhaps the Armor Fox Creek sells is some kind of superior type armor. I know now enough about armor to know for sure. It just seemed to be a lot of $$$ for Armor.

 

250 is a lot for armor.

 

Thanks for the nice write up and pictures. While I won't buy anything made in Pakistan it does give me ideas of what I should consider when I do buy a jacket.

 

My $59.95 leather jacket with the same features shown in the post was made in Pakistan and was without bullet holes or IED's.

Very well made and heavy leather. Great zippers. If you stop at a Loves truck stop check them out.

 

[QUOTE=GeezerDude;8834073]Thanks for the nice write up and pictures. While I won't buy anything made in Pakistan it does give me ideas of what I should consider when I do buy a jacket.

My pleasure. And if you want an American made jacket, my Fox Creek will be up for sale soon. Barely worn.