No matter what laws are put in place, in order for any law to affect me it has to be enforced.

I am surrounded by exhaust laws here and I've never gotten a single ticket for it. In fact, I've never even been pulled over. Right across the river in Washington they passed a law year before last and everyone was up in arms about it. Turns out, they only use the laws as a method to break up the packs of stupid kids buzzing around neighborhoods all night in a car with loud exhaust, or revving their bikes.

Color it how you want but there is an actual need to stop idiots, unfortunately for some of us this will jeopardize our personal freedom at times.

 

I liked the sound of the pipes my 2010 FXDC came with--they're great. Sounds the same now as it did 20,000 miles ago--still like it. Riders that measure their manhood by the noise their bikes make have problems that run much deeper than the impending legislation. When I was a kid, I liked to act out and draw attention to myself. I'm (much) older now and I've matured, although my love of riding after >100,000 miles hasn't diminished one bit.

All you guys bitching about your rights to be ******** and ruin the environment for the shirts--and the rest of us--need to grow up. If you can't enjoy the ride without rattling everything around you, then maybe it never was about the ride.

 

This is just another way for the government to control our everyday lives. And for those that want to complain about loud pipes, is it really that big of a problem? So someone on a bike rides next to you for a few minutes with loud pipes...big deal! I have a problem with someone blaring their music with a big radio system. My only gripe with that is...if I wanted to listen to that particular song or music I would turn it on myself, but thank you anyways for your generosity.

 

Just because someone likes the sound of his/her aftermarket pipes over the stock **** doesn't make anyone an *******, dumbass..and adding aftermarket pipes does nothing over stock exhaust to ruin the environment on bikes that aren't originally equipped with catalytic converters.

If your really concerned about the environment, and noise pollution, sell your Harley and buy a Prius.

 

I can not believe I see this many so called bikers wanting more laws about infractions as small as loud pipes do you dips understand if the man is righting tickets for traffic offences the baby rapers robbers killers can have a free pass.

 

Let's all keep our attention on the core issue here (that's what started this thread) which is environmental Noise pollution and the flagrant violations by some in our community. Since the EPA is currently responsible to set emissions levels for motor vehicles, both air and sound, this is an environmental issue by default. Being a little outside of the limits isn't what triggered Joe Citizen to take legal action; bikes with straight pipes are what triggered Mr, Citizen. Let's all write our congressmen and ask them to raise the noise standards currently set by the EPA--or not.

It doesn't matter whether your pipes are aftermarket or stock Harley, they still have to pass the environmental noise standards set by the EPA. My pipes have an EPA stamp on them. Do yours? If you choose to buy pipes that break down and the baffles blow out after a thousand miles, that's a choice. Take up the quality issues with the guy who sold them to you. I'm not bitching at Harley about mine cause they still sound like they did 20,000 miles ago. That's quality!

You can still ride free without deafening the people around you, so it's not about freedom. Once again, if you measure your manhood by the window rattling level of sound coming out of your bike, then maybe this isn't really about the ride at all.

 

Some class action legal beagal would have a good time with that one. You can't blanket ban something just because a few are obnoxous or all bikers must be criminals or some such stupidity; there has to be some compelling reason and I doubt noise qualifies. The feds still say two wheeled motor vehicles are legal on the roads and the states or cities etc. can't change that at least not on any road that gets federal money and I'm fairly sure states take fed money for state roads and cities and counties might too. Any area that tries to ban motorcycles entirely is setting themselves up for a law suit and I daresay they'd lose hands down. Deed restricted communities might be different because as a rule cities etc. don't maintain or enforce laws on their roads but since I'd die before I moved into one of those violation of human rights I could care less what the 90 year olds with no lives choose to do they're easy enough to leave in your dust.

 

This whole loud pipe thing is bullshit when you know that any transport truck going down the road is not only louder but spews a thousand times more **** into the air. I think all this is, is about some ******* law maker that tables this crap and for no other reason that he just hates bikes period. The other thing is that we have too much control in our lives and before you know they will mandate orange vests and full face helmets and riding will no longer be worthwhile, well except for you whine'rs.

 

Trucks are a tool of commerce and will always be given a pass. Motorcycles are just somebody's toy in comparison.

 

I measure Democracy by the amount of frivolous laws that are on the books. And we have a lot of them, and apparently a lot of people who want more. This is our government at work.