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Originally Posted by paulpa
thank you for that answer,have you seen any high mileage ones out of a hydraulic unit?tthank you again
Here's mine at 90,000 miles!
 
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Originally Posted by George C
What most people don't know is this:
The strong one piece crank went out with the EVO.
The problem with gear drives is that "if" your T/C pressed crank has a little extra run out, like a good percentage may have, you might eventually find broken gear teeth, and even more broken internal parts when she locks up. It's the same potential time bomb, just in a different package...
Actually, they used the forged cranks in the original TC motors through 02, and even after that, the extra pinion shaft run out issue didn't start until 06.

Starting in 06, the moco started increasing the amount of maximum allowable tolerance for pinion shaft run out by quite a bit. Up through 05, chances are very good that your pinion shaft run out will be less than .003, and well within tolerance for gear drive cams. 06 or later, chances aren't as good.
 
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Originally Posted by sonnlaw
Done just that yesterday. A great idea. Im impressed to say the least. And btw my tensioners were ok at 30k on the clock,but no more worries now.
Tell me about the 555 cam, how did it change things?
 
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Originally Posted by soft 02
Here's mine at 90,000 miles!
thank you for those pictures,,,,mutch appreciated
 
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Originally Posted by DBAGR
They are not even remotely the same material as the spring loaded shoes. The spring loaded are a hard bakeolite type material and are often times porous under the finished surface, which causes excellerated deterioration as soon as the surface begins to wear and are prone to cracking. The new style shoes are similar to the material used on the tensioner in your primary to control slack in the drive chain. At the rate of wear I've seen on these new shoes for the mileage, I see no need to check more often than 50,000 mi intervals minimum.
this is fantastic info,,,,thank you for sharing it....
 
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Friends don't let friends drive with old tensioners! Here is my outer with 50k, the inner was just as bad. Too close for my comfort. Went with the Hydraulic upgrade and Andrews 21 cams. Could not be happier.
 
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Originally Posted by DBAGR
They are not even remotely the same material as the spring loaded shoes. The spring loaded are a hard bakeolite type material and are often times porous under the finished surface, which causes excellerated deterioration as soon as the surface begins to wear and are prone to cracking. The new style shoes are similar to the material used on the tensioner in your primary to control slack in the drive chain. At the rate of wear I've seen on these new shoes for the mileage, I see no need to check more often than 50,000 mi intervals minimum.
If the material the new shoes are made of is so much better, then it just begs the question; why did they never make any replacement spring loaded tensioners with shoes made from the better material?
 
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Originally Posted by str8jacket
If the material the new shoes are made of is so much better, then it just begs the question; why did they never make any replacement spring loaded tensioners with shoes made from the better material?
Because of the amount of pressure that the spring loaded tensioners exert the softer material of the hyd unit would be worn out very quickly.
 
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