Dealer ever make you feel cheap?
#11
06-06-2011, 01:11 AM
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No, but my GF does. Can't say I blame her.
I bought 3 new bikes from my dealer for cash. They wouldn't DARE!
I bought 3 new bikes from my dealer for cash. They wouldn't DARE!
#13
06-06-2011, 05:09 AM
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Slip-ons and the AC you can do yourself. If you want to save a little on the remap call Texan HD in Conroe or Goe HD in Angleton as their shop rates are about 2/3 of what Mancuso charges. Independence HD in College Station is probably cheaper also but have never been there.
#14
06-06-2011, 08:27 AM
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Or you could always get a hold of Jamie at Fuel-Moto. You already have the big (heavy) parts in the exhaust and you can order an air filter and PC3/5 from him with a good remap already loaded. His prices are very reasonable and you can probably walk away under $500 for the additional parts.
Pipes if just slip-ons should take you 1-2 hours to install and maybe 2-3 if its full pipes.
Air filter should take you maybe 30min-1 hour to install
PC3/5 fuel management system 30min-1 hour to install
Pipes if just slip-ons should take you 1-2 hours to install and maybe 2-3 if its full pipes.
Air filter should take you maybe 30min-1 hour to install
PC3/5 fuel management system 30min-1 hour to install
#16
06-06-2011, 09:52 AM
That's why I always put a Cobra Fi2000R on my bikes. It runs about $269 and I can have it in the bike in less than an hour. No tune needed and no dyno. I do add the SE stage I ac which I get at 20% off and install myself.
Gain about 10 hp for under $400. Lasts for the life of the bike. The Cobra runs down stream from the ECM and tells it to add fuel to get to the ideal 12.1 to 1 afr. Bike runs cooler besides stronger.
I never understood HD tunes as they follow EPA mandates and the bike will run lean with them.
Gain about 10 hp for under $400. Lasts for the life of the bike. The Cobra runs down stream from the ECM and tells it to add fuel to get to the ideal 12.1 to 1 afr. Bike runs cooler besides stronger.
I never understood HD tunes as they follow EPA mandates and the bike will run lean with them.
From what I've read a 12:1 A/F ratio is not Ideal, it might be for full throttle accel. but not just cruising along...
Most tuners will tune between mid 12's to even up to the 14's for performance and best mileage. different settings for different throttle positions..
Read through this thread for more info.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/elect...atio-look.html
Last edited by oct1949; 06-06-2011 at 10:44 AM.
#17
06-06-2011, 10:00 AM
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That's why I always put a Cobra Fi2000R on my bikes. It runs about $269 and I can have it in the bike in less than an hour. No tune needed and no dyno. I do add the SE stage I ac which I get at 20% off and install myself.
Gain about 10 hp for under $400. Lasts for the life of the bike. The Cobra runs down stream from the ECM and tells it to add fuel to get to the ideal 12.1 to 1 afr. Bike runs cooler besides stronger.
I never understood HD tunes as they follow EPA mandates and the bike will run lean with them.
Gain about 10 hp for under $400. Lasts for the life of the bike. The Cobra runs down stream from the ECM and tells it to add fuel to get to the ideal 12.1 to 1 afr. Bike runs cooler besides stronger.
I never understood HD tunes as they follow EPA mandates and the bike will run lean with them.
#18
06-06-2011, 11:15 AM
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The dealer service guy left me pretty confused on this basic question: Do you have to have a tuner to adjust the AF ratio on an efi bike? Right now, I'm not trying to wring every last fp of torque and every last HP out of it. I just want the fuel ratio set so that the bike runs in spec, and so that I wont damage the engine or discolor the pipes. If I put a less restrictive AF on it with the new pipes, is my only option some tuner, cobra, etc... that will add 300 to 800 bucks to the cost of the job?
#20
06-06-2011, 11:29 AM
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before you put the pipes on make sure you have everything you need. If they do not have O2 sensor plugs and you install a tuner you will need those. And i would suggest buying new gaskets and replacing the old ones as well.
Also, an alternative to a fuel management system would be the HD stage 1 map. They can download that for you and it usually costs about $100 to $150.
Do everything else yourself.
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Also, an alternative to a fuel management system would be the HD stage 1 map. They can download that for you and it usually costs about $100 to $150.
Do everything else yourself.
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