Bad part is we do pay for them. You need a little salt, ice, and snow in long beach. Then your roads would look the same!

 

 

You guys are lightweights. I grew up in NYC & rode the Brooklyn-Queens expressway & the Cross-Bronx expressway regularly. Fortunately, most of the time the traffic was bumper-to-bumper on those roads, so you moved at 5 mph. Those roads were unsafe at ANY speed.

 

For some reason (I think my boss hates me); I always have to spend quite a bit of time up north during the winter. This year, early January I was in Detroit, middle January Cincinnati, then late January and most of February in the very northern part of North Dakota (talk about *** freezing cold!).

What I found is the roads in North Dakota were MUCH better than anywhereI had ever been in the northeast. Their winters are harsher and colder but the roads are better. I don't understand....... If they can keep the roads up, why can't other states?

 

I lived in northeast ohio for 49 years. Potholes are a fact of life up there. Never really gonna be able to solve the problem as long as the freeze/thaw cycle continues. Here in SC, the roads are considerably better but not without fault. There are some dang rough roads around here too.

 

Amount of traffic on the roads? Especially heavy like tractor trailers?

 

Waaaay up north, it freezes early, freezes hard, and stays frozen until it thaws. There may be a little see-sawing at either end of the season, but it's nothing like the freeze/thaw cycles in Iowa, or Illinois, or even Delaware.

The problems come when a little water under the road freezes and expands, forcing the road up and increasing the gap. Thaw, more water under road, more expansion, rinse and repeat. So it's actually worse for the roads when the temps go up and down above and below freezing.

That's my story, and I'm sticking to it.

 

That makes sense. Being from SE GA I never thought about the temperature see-saw affect on roads. Learn something new everyday!

 

My wife is from there and we go up all the time. I rode there once and the roads were so bad that the seems in the freeway are raised like speed bumps. I hit one so hard I thought I was going to come off my bike. For the pot holes, they seemed to be where the lines are so you need to look way a head and decide if it is safe to change lanes. So now I have to watch for the soccer mom on her cell phone, but the unsafe roads in Cincinnati. Fun times! I just hope they fix the damm roads there by the time I retire.

 

True dickey, teh BQE is only safe for an M1 tank. Most of the roads in NYC same way. We have good roads in Fla, no winter heaving helps alot.