LITHIUM battery?
#31
It's more just heavy draw use. Some of the foamys that we fly won't ever pull close to enough load to drop the cells under 3 volts unless you almost completely drain the battery. That's the reason we don't need over 15C batteries on them. Start going over 80 percent drained and even these batteries go south pretty fast. If any cell gets under 3.3 volts per cell my ESCs are set to cut the throttle. Even staying above that voltage my Cellpro 10 chager still shows a pack going below 80% now and then.
Last edited by Allen Dye; 02-25-2011 at 09:19 PM.
#33
Bad Lithium!?
Percentage of capacity used isn't really relevant, it's the voltage drop allowed under load. If you're pushing too hard for too long, you will go well below 3v per cell under load and that is where damage will happen. My transmitter that has a 2200mAh battery but only draws .1A during use can run over 2000mAh of use all day long but never get close to 3v per cell and will last for years without problem. Take the same battery in a plane drawing 40A and I can't pull that kind of capacity without going significantly under 3v per cell under load and that will severely shorten it's life span.
I've decided to go with the AGM battery this spring from J & P Cycle who I've dealt with for years and never had any return issues the few times I've had to return items. Seems reasonably priced around $100 with 340 CCA.
#34
At $186 I'd say the new technology Lithium battery is competitive with lead acids that run anywhere from about $60 to around $300 ( JP Cycles inventory). A BIG advantage is losing 10-15 lbs. of weight and with comparable starting power that is saying something. As with any new technology it is continually changing and improving in design and price. Anyone remember when hand held calculators first came out in the early 1970's?? The "scientific" calculators were around $400. Now you can get one for about $10 or less.
Considering the Lithium motorcycle batteries are relatively new I'd say the price tag is very competitive.
Considering the Lithium motorcycle batteries are relatively new I'd say the price tag is very competitive.
http://www.dekabatteries.com/
#35
All I can say is that with my experience using lithium polymer and lithium ion batteries with my other hobby, that they would not be a choice I would make for the motorcycle. Whatever that's worth.
#37
We have a tendency to want to fix things that aren't broken, this can be seen in every oil thread and a million other places on this forum. Maybe it's just human nature to want to tinker.
With the lithium batteries, like I said I'm no expert but I have spent more money than I would ever care to admit on lithium batteries, computer chargers, and other electronic devices to monitor and tune my electric airplanes. Lithium was the best thing to happen to the RC hobby in my young (cough cough) lifetime but they can be nasty when abused or somehow caused to fail and I don't see any benefit of putting them on our bikes.
My current everyday bike is an '08 Electra glide with about 30k on it and the original battery. When it fails, I'll replace it with a similar one.
With the lithium batteries, like I said I'm no expert but I have spent more money than I would ever care to admit on lithium batteries, computer chargers, and other electronic devices to monitor and tune my electric airplanes. Lithium was the best thing to happen to the RC hobby in my young (cough cough) lifetime but they can be nasty when abused or somehow caused to fail and I don't see any benefit of putting them on our bikes.
My current everyday bike is an '08 Electra glide with about 30k on it and the original battery. When it fails, I'll replace it with a similar one.
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