I was exactly the opposite. When I was first learning, the idea of leaning scared the crap out of me, because I got distracted by the idea of falling instead. Then I took the MSF course and learned about countersteering. Concentrating on countersteering, I forgot to think about falling, and immediately improved my turning ability.

 

Gyro effect? Isn't that what used to happen with the rotary engine Suzuki

 

If you're traveling at street speed and change directions you are countersteering whether you know it or not. The only way not to countersteer is to go straight andyou would probably end up in a wreck.

 

Dont think about it, it just comes natural. If you dont do it youll be over the bank.

 

Dang! After 6 years of riding I am not sure if I really know how. After 20K on bikes do yall think I would benefit from the MSF course? Beginner or experienced?

 

If you're being serious, take the experienced course. The basic course is designed for people who have never sat on a motorcycle before.

If you're not being serious that's o.k.

 

Any time you are taking a curve with any speed at all you are countersteering whether you realize it or not right now. You cannot turn without it (once you are at 7 0r 8 mph or up.)

Once you realize it and you do it deliberately, you will have sharper cornering and deeper leans. It is a hell of a lot of fun! I love twisties!!!

 

some yrs ago my wife was taking our son to school on the sporty 1st grade. when a car came across the yellow line a littel this scared her and she let off the gas witch caused the bike to stand up,they went off the top of the corner and wiped out!!allthough counter steering is natural, one needs to know that some times it is a forced ishue and and will require more input than expected.i then took her out to some twistys and showed her afew things, also to trust your tires and sometimes you have to gas on it!! (ps) on that day they were not hurt lots of peopel had stoped, my son was cryin allitel but still bucked up and toldhis mom PICK UP THE BIKE!!!thats my littel man...

 

the only time i can tell that i am doing it is when i am in the dirt or gravel other than that its all nat chur l

 

No, only for turn initiation, mid turn steering corrections, and standing the bike back up exiting the turn. The rest of the time, you are turning without any steering input at all, unless your bike's steering geometry is jacked up, or the tires are shot or underinflated.