Orange County Choppers Headquarters Facing Foreclosure
#162
I bet Paulie used to break those little toys where you had to insert the round peg into the round hole. Damn man if it don't fit then stop beating the hell outta it with your hammer. There are lots of talented bike builders out there to support.
#163
I couldn't agree more. It would be nice if they could get rid of those douche bags and get someone on tv that builds more bitchin' practical bikes. I don't know if there is still a market for it, but I was a huge fan of the biker buildoffs.
#164
I can't believe this thread is still around and anybody actually gives two ***** about those jokers in the first place , damn people .
#165
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I like Paul Sr., can't stand his spoiled brat kids though. I think it sucks that Senior built that business up from nothing, and apparently it's now in trouble, mostly due to his lazy offspring.
Yeah..... Right! According to Sr. his kids did NOTHING to build his company. It was only through his efforts. I watched an episode last night and Sr. didn't know a wrench from a ratchet. Said he wouldn't go see a bike Jr. built cause "He didn't build it Vinny did". Name one bike this *** has ever built without the labor of his son, Vinny, or any of the other OCC staff. None of them could set the timming on a Shovel head if their lives (or business) depended on it.
I've been to the OCC HQ a dozen times and just couldn't see how he thought he could pay for the building on "T" shirt sales!! BTW I don't own anything with their logo on it.
He is the worst CEO of any company I have ever seen. What a dope! Sr. was the money...Jr. was the talent...Mikie was the court jester. Remove any one component and this was doomed to fail. I'm surprised it lasted this long. And if GE lent them that kind of money in the wake of this business plan well their loan officer needs to clean out his desk also. I see another bailout coming...
Yeah..... Right! According to Sr. his kids did NOTHING to build his company. It was only through his efforts. I watched an episode last night and Sr. didn't know a wrench from a ratchet. Said he wouldn't go see a bike Jr. built cause "He didn't build it Vinny did". Name one bike this *** has ever built without the labor of his son, Vinny, or any of the other OCC staff. None of them could set the timming on a Shovel head if their lives (or business) depended on it.
I've been to the OCC HQ a dozen times and just couldn't see how he thought he could pay for the building on "T" shirt sales!! BTW I don't own anything with their logo on it.
He is the worst CEO of any company I have ever seen. What a dope! Sr. was the money...Jr. was the talent...Mikie was the court jester. Remove any one component and this was doomed to fail. I'm surprised it lasted this long. And if GE lent them that kind of money in the wake of this business plan well their loan officer needs to clean out his desk also. I see another bailout coming...
A matter of opinion, nothing more. Carry on.
To me that is Ghetto, The guy made millions on the show and now is going to stiff the agency that lent them the money. They borrowed 12.5 million pay it back, not renegotiate to 7 million.
Just scum and the public will pay for this crap. That was the whole credit problem to begin with lending money to people that are scum.
Just scum and the public will pay for this crap. That was the whole credit problem to begin with lending money to people that are scum.
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I believe that most.... if not all of those "fights" were choreographed for the entertainment of the viewers. To build bikes for TV they had to look like what TV's perception of A Biker was. You know what that is...it's portrayed in every "B" grade biker move ever made! I watched in horror when Boyd Coddington's show came out with Boyd screaming at all his employees emulating Paul Sr. Seems they had a success formula and they didn't want him to deviate from it. That persona did more harm to Boyd's business than I think he ever knew. Most of the guys I know... encluding myself that are into hotrods lost a lot of respect for Boyd (not his cars) after that show came out. It made him look like a tyrant who sat up in his ivory tower looking down on all the little workers who made him a multi-million dollar organization. Before his untimely death toppled that empire most of his key employees left him.
I saw the last five minutes of one recent show while channel surfing -- the GEICO biker built by Junior was the dumbest looking thing I ever saw.
But -- hey kids, this stuff is like pro wrasslin', it's all fixed. Don't lose any sleep over it and if Paul Sr ever jumped the line in front of me at McDonald's (see thread from a month ago), I'd knock him on his flabby ***...
But -- hey kids, this stuff is like pro wrasslin', it's all fixed. Don't lose any sleep over it and if Paul Sr ever jumped the line in front of me at McDonald's (see thread from a month ago), I'd knock him on his flabby ***...
And I'd love to see you actually try and step in and fight Senior. Easy to say you'd fight someone over the internet. Another internet toughguy...good job.
seems to me that the whole Jr vs Sr thing has about as much drama as a group of 13 yr old girls.. I'm not impressed, they've whored themselves out for TV ratings, what loosers!
as far as their bikes, shoot, I could do it.. buy an engine, buy a frame, think of a theme, build it send it out to be painted by someone else, what the hell.. I can buy the parts to build a bike, does that make me a custom builder? hell now, the custom builder would BUILD not assemble, he would fabricate, and I don't see much of that going on, just prebuilt parts being assembled. Shoot, I can teach a monkey (or even my little brother who don't know what a wrench is) how to do that! Sorry, the themes have been cool but I haven't been really impressed.
btw, I bought a set of OCC safety glasses for work, not impressed either, they fell apart within 30 days, don't waste your money. I'm sure they didn't build them, but they put their name on junk and that's as bad...
as far as their bikes, shoot, I could do it.. buy an engine, buy a frame, think of a theme, build it send it out to be painted by someone else, what the hell.. I can buy the parts to build a bike, does that make me a custom builder? hell now, the custom builder would BUILD not assemble, he would fabricate, and I don't see much of that going on, just prebuilt parts being assembled. Shoot, I can teach a monkey (or even my little brother who don't know what a wrench is) how to do that! Sorry, the themes have been cool but I haven't been really impressed.
btw, I bought a set of OCC safety glasses for work, not impressed either, they fell apart within 30 days, don't waste your money. I'm sure they didn't build them, but they put their name on junk and that's as bad...
Now THAT sh*t is funny. Maybe they could have the painter emboss "seized property" stickers into the tank!? HA! LMAO here.
BTW my favorite part of the show was when Paulie and Vinnie would be working their ***** off on a $150k theme bike and the old man would wander out of the office, see some pop cans on the bench and start screaming at them to clean up the shop. I always figured it had to be staged as NO ONE could be such a BIG DUMB *sshole as that guy.
BTW my favorite part of the show was when Paulie and Vinnie would be working their ***** off on a $150k theme bike and the old man would wander out of the office, see some pop cans on the bench and start screaming at them to clean up the shop. I always figured it had to be staged as NO ONE could be such a BIG DUMB *sshole as that guy.
I've had many technicians over the years and ALL are sloppy at one point or another. The management/ownership will ALWAYS have to clean up after the employees, ALWAYS.
I pretty much quit watching when they were wrecking new trucks for laffs. "Hey Pop, I ripped your bumper off..HAW HAW". Then a couple of years later, I tuned in and was really suprised by their palatial new HQ. WTF? But I did get a laugh at the CEOs of companies that were dumb enough to pay 150K for bikes during the "unveil" (BTW, shouldn't be "unveiling?)...anyway, they always had their employees out their snapping pics, while none of them, CEOs included, really had any idea what they were looking at. They'd sit on it, but never ride it. I always wondered how many of those employees thought "I can't get a raise, but...."
As far as Mikey, he wouldn't last 2 days at Mcdonald's. He's the luckiest bastard since Ringo.
As far as Mikey, he wouldn't last 2 days at Mcdonald's. He's the luckiest bastard since Ringo.
Actually the smart one in the group (Turd-tal Family stick), Paul Jr. blessed with a knack for the obvious always discribed what they were looking at. Here I will give an examle:
Paul Jr.:
I just want to say thank you for giving us this opportunity to build this bike. What we did here is put some parts on a motorcycle; it has two wheels, hum, so it can be riden. Ah, the parts we incorperated (big word for ol jr.) to make this a theme bike, ah, were ideas we came up with when we toured, hum, your company. The wheels are round and ah, inside we incorperated our images of OCC, which is pretty cool, on your theme bike. What is also cool, is ah, when you sit on the bike it feels great. Hum, the way it rides is really awesome. Huh, I hope you enjoy the bike as much as we enjoyed, hum building it.
Thank you. Thank you, you folk have been great. Have a great evening. Enjoy the show. Again, please tip the staff.
Paul Jr.:
I just want to say thank you for giving us this opportunity to build this bike. What we did here is put some parts on a motorcycle; it has two wheels, hum, so it can be riden. Ah, the parts we incorperated (big word for ol jr.) to make this a theme bike, ah, were ideas we came up with when we toured, hum, your company. The wheels are round and ah, inside we incorperated our images of OCC, which is pretty cool, on your theme bike. What is also cool, is ah, when you sit on the bike it feels great. Hum, the way it rides is really awesome. Huh, I hope you enjoy the bike as much as we enjoyed, hum building it.
Thank you. Thank you, you folk have been great. Have a great evening. Enjoy the show. Again, please tip the staff.
"You are thinking of the "Old America" in today's "New America and World Order" the President of the USA seizes the company through bailouts with taxpayer money then fires the CEO...appoints his own guy and then steals the bondholders money in a rigged bankruptcy and gives it to the union...then a year later the union sells their stock and makes a nice tidy profit out of nothing...you know like GM and the UAW??"
Now there is some pure fantasy for ya.
Now there is some pure fantasy for ya.
Right, you see the show, you don't see that little problems can be fixed later. In fact in that show, they said they go back and redo the battery box. But when you work within a certain time frame, you have to stick to that contract, or risk the entire company, and entire TV Show Franchise. Which would you be choosing?
#168
And it isn't like Harley's are immune to problems either. Everything that is built has problems, and will break.