Good write up Drew. I agree that ridability is more important than numbers.

But out of curiosity what were your numbers?

My 05 with 95, SE 204 and AC and BSS using a Fuel Moto Tuner (PClll made for them) only pulled 86hp 93tq on the last dyno pull I did (not a tune, it was a freebie for promotion at a dealer) but it rides great and gets OK milage.

I have been thinking about a SE Pro Tuner or a TTS what does the TTS cost from you guys?

 

I got 84hp and 95 tq. I'll PM pricing on the TTS.

Drew

 

Happy to hear U now have a good tune..
So Cal is a little far to ride to get ours turned though from our Indiana home.

We have one of dealers out of 5 close to home that also has a really good tuner.
Russ their Master Wrench at 96th st INDY. Excellent on all his builds and other work.

Just have One question, wondering why didn't he use smoothing 5 instead of 3, I know it doesn't make the tune better, just that the lines wont jump as much.

 

[QUOTE=DR. V-TWIN;7410327]Yesterday I had the pleasure to visit the Cycle Doctor (a fellow colleague) in Costa Mesa for a Dyno tune of my 95" build with S/E 203 cams, PCIIIR and a D&D fatcat.

I had my bike Dynoed twice in the past at a "quickie" Dyno and it never ran anything like it does now. Granted it ran better than before, it now is running at it's full potential (with good gas mileage) in a streetable fashion. I told Geoff that nubmers are not nearly as important as the streetability of the ride. He agrees and we spent a fair amount of time discussing how a tuner has the ability to manipulate the numbers a certain amount to achieve the magic numbers that people are after, however that is not how you are going to obtain a good tune.
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Glad U added this part. Lots of newbies thinks it all about the Numbers.....

And theirs a group of tuners that promise big numbers with little work. Some guys fall for that..

When I did my cams I read a lot on dyno's and thats when I found out why some tuners have whats called a " HAPPY DYNOs"......

When I read in here about some owners claims of 95#'s of TQ and 80+ HP with a stock 88" or 96" with only stg1.... well,,, Uh,,, IMO,, thats just VERY,,, VERY,, hard to believe..

Trouble is no doubt that theres some tuners that draws in bussiness by making big claims..

Heres some ways that I've learned some tuners use to inflate Ur dyno Numbers

First do a STD and not SAE tunes, (STD's net 3-5% higher numbers).

Another is over inflate the rear tire, don't sit on the bike and do 5 gear pulls. (Another 2-4% higher Numbers).

Plus as U learned the operator can make changes to the dyno itself and get another big % increase.

Our tuner does only SAE, 4th gear pulls, smoothing 5 and he even sits on the bike..
Also like Ur tuner he spend at least 2 1/2 to 3hrs min on tunes.

 

Hey Drew,

I told them what I had, 2010 FLSTF with V&H dbl barrel staggereds and a S/E AC.

They didn't quote me 8 hours, he said that it would be a minimum of 4 hours. He said that it was a hundred bucks an hour for the dyno time plus the labor for tuning, which was a total of $750-$800. I repeated the numbers just to make sure I was hearing correctly, yep, $750-$800.

By what you said, I am assuming that you thought I meant 8 hours of dyno time but in fact that quoted price was only for 4 hours. He told me there was the cost of the dyno time plus the cost of labor.

Just wanted to clarify that

Thanks,
Larry

 

Call him back and tell him i sent you, he will do you right.

Drew

 

Thanks Drew,

I'm going to get my TTS first, then probably go see them when I know I am done with engine mods.

I'm still saving up for that Shotgun system which I really want to get on before the first of the year, thanks for all the info on that!

Regards,
Larry

 

i did 95" and andrews 37 cams!! didnt dyno it though!

 

hey my dr. calls me after any prosedure, and he is cheaper than yours, lol

 

hey doc, the guy shoulden`t have to call him back and say someone else said to call, he sounds like he did his homework, and was quoted a pretty high price maybe because you are a dealer you got a better deal