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my daughter wears them
I bought two for her on Christmas
 
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good luck. My wife is getting a new helmet.
My gf is getting new boots. But I see nothing wrong w/ Harley beads. Have some on both my lowrider and my rkc. They are on a Harley and they are beads, ergo they are Harley beads' Here are some pics of the roadking
 
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Are these different from each store? How much are they? My wife is gonna love them.
 
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Originally Posted by RHPAW
You can't fool me. That thing on the upper left is a worn-out cam chain tensioner, and I caught a 9 lb. walleye once with that thing on the bottom right.

Oh man Coughing up a lung laughing at that .LOLOLOL
 
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Well they say HD is going after female riders.

LOL....So am I...
 
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Well they say HD is going after female riders.
I'm going after female riders too!
 
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Actually, it's not even "Poser", but, more correctly, "Poseur":

In virtually any of the following examples, if you replaced the "lifestyle" being discussed with "biker", or "Harley rider", you may see the point that much more clearly...
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Poseur is a pejorative term, often used in the punk, heavy metal, hip hop and goth subcultures to describe a person who adopts the dress, speech, and/or mannerisms of a group or subculture, generally for attaining acceptability within the group or for popularity among various other groups, yet who is deemed to not share or understand the values or philosophy of the subculture. While this perceived inauthenticity is viewed with scorn and contempt by members of the subculture, the definition of the term and to whom it should be applied is subjective. While the term is most associated with the 1970s- and 1980s-era punk and hardcore subculture, English use of the term originates in the late 19th century.[1]
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[edit] Etymology and definitions

The English term poseur is a loanword from French, in which it is used figuratively since the mid-19th century with the same meaning as in English [2] to refer to people who "affect an attitude or pose". Etymonline, an online etymology dictionary, argues that since the "word is Eng.[English] poser in Fr.[French] garb", thus it "could itself be considered an affectation."[3]
Dictionary.com says the word refers to "a person who habitually pretends to be something he is not."[1] The Merriam-Webster dictionary notes that the term was also used to refer to a "person who pretends to be what he or she is not" or an "insincere person".[4] The Encarta dictionary states that the term is used to describe a "pretentious person" or "somebody who tries to impress others by behaving in an affected way".[5] The Cambridge Dictionary defines a "poseur" as "someone who pretends to be something they are not, or to have qualities that they do not have."[6]
Many individuals misspell the word as Poser, which by Merriam-Webster's definition is either "a puzzling or baffling question" or "a person who poses" as if for a portrait.
[edit] Punk subculture

Music journalist Dave Rimmer wrote that the first punks in London used "terms in which they expressed their disdain for hangers-on and those whose post-hip credentials didn’t quite make it came straight out of the authenticity movements: "Poseurs" was the favorite epithet." [7] Ross Buncle argues that eventually the Australian punk scene "opened the door to a host of poseurs, who were less interested in the music than in UK-punk fancy dress and being seen to be hip".[8] He praises the gigs where there "were no punk-identikit poseurs" in the audience.
In a review of The Clash film Rude Boy, a critic argued that this "film was another sign of how The Clash had sold out – a messy, vain work of punk poseurs." [9] US music journalist Lester Bangs praised punk pioneer Richard Hell for writing the "strongest, truest rock & roll I have heard in ages" without being an "arty poseur" of the "age of artifice"[10] Another critic argues that by the late 1970s, "punk rock had already, at this early date, shown signs of devolving into pure pose, black leather jacket and short hair required."[11] Please Kill Me includes interviews with punks in New York and Detroit who "rip their English counterparts as a bunch of sissified poseurs."[12]
The term poseur was used in several late-1970s punk songs, including the X-Ray Spex song "I am a Poseur" and the Television Personalities song "Part-Time Punks". The Television Personalities' song "was a reaction to the macho posturing of the English punk scene".[13] The lyrics argue that, "while Television Personalities were not themselves punks in the orthodox sense, neither was anyone else." The song "declared that either everyone who wanted to be a punk was one or that everyone was a poseur (or both)", and it argues that "the concept of ... punk rock authenticity, of Joe Strummer, was a fiction." Red Cross included the song "Standing in front of Poseur” in their debut EP (however, it can be argued that the song is strictly about a local record store named 'Poseur').[14][15]
An article in Drowned in Sound argues that 1980s-era "hardcore is the true spirit of punk" because "[a]fter all the poseurs and fashionistas ****ed off to the next trend of skinny pink ties with New Romantic haircuts, singing wimpy lyrics..." It argued that the hardcore scene consisted only of people "completely dedicated to the DIY ethics"; punk "[l]ifers without the ambition to one day settle into the study-work-family-house-retirement-death scenario." [16]
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Joey Keithley of D.O.A. has said "for every person sporting an anarchy symbol without understanding it there’s an older punk who thinks they’re a poseur."


Dave Rimmer writes that with the revival of punk ideals of stripped-down music in the early 1990s, with "Cobain, and lots of kids like him, rock & roll ... threw down a dare: Can you be pure enough, day after day, year after year, to prove your authenticity, to live up to the music [and] live with being a poseur, a phony, a sellout?" [7] Refused's Dennis Lyxzén and Bad Religion's Brett Gurewitz used the term to refer to early 2000s-era pop punk fans as "kids — more specifically the new wave of punk poseurs who came to the music via bands like Good Charlotte..." They argue that these young listeners want "not to have to think and [instead they] would rather use music as escapism [,] and too many bands seem willing to comply."[17]
One writer argued that the Los Angeles punk scene scene was changed by the invasion of "antagonistic suburban poseurs", which bred "rising violence ... and led to a general breakdown of the hardcore scene." [18] A writer for The Gauntlet praised the US Bombs' politically oriented albums as "a boulder of truth and authenticity in a sea of slick poseur sewage", and called them "real punk rockers" at "a time where the genre is littered with dumb songs about cars, girls and bong hits." [19]
University of Texas professor Neil Nehring argues that some performers "who in their time we thought of as schlocky pop poseurs" are now seen as interesting and worthy of study."[20] Daniel S. Traber argues that attaining authenticity in the punk identity can be difficult; as the punk scene changed and re-invented itself, "[e]veryone got called a poseur". [21]
Many people believe actors and actresses who form a band on the side are poseurs. An example is how people critique The Pretty Reckless as poseurs, mainly because front-woman Momsen is both a model and actress but still categorizes herself as grunge and punk. Other examples, i.e. Green Day and Paramore, are also called sellouts and phonies, which refers to the fact that they do stunts for money and personal gain and not for music.
Joe Keithley, the singer for D.O.A. said in an interview that "for every person sporting an anarchy symbol without understanding it there’s an older punk who thinks they’re a poseur."[22] The interviewer, Liisa Ladouceur, argued that when a group or scene's "followers grow in number, the original devotees abandon it, ... because it is now attracting too many poseurs—people the core group does not want to be associated with.
The early 1980s hardcore punk band MDC penned a song entitled "Poseur Punk", which excoriated pretenders who copied the punk look without adopting its values. As part of MDC's 25th anniversary tour in the 2000s, frontman "Dictor's targets remain largely the same: warmongering politicians, money-grubbing punk poseurs (including Rancid, whose Tim Armstrong once worked as an M.D.C. roadie), and of course, cops."[23] NOFX's album The War on Errorism includes the song "Decom-poseur", part of the album's overall "critique of punk rock's 21st century incarnation of itself." In an interview, NOFX's lead singer Mike Burkett (aka "Fat Mike") "lashes out" at "an entire population of bands he deems guilty of bastardizing a once socially feared and critically infallible genre" of punk, asking "[w]hen did punk rock become so safe?" [24]
[edit] Heavy metal subculture

In the heavy metal subculture, the term poseur is used to refer to "someone dishonest who adopted the most rigorous pose, or identity-affirming lifestyle and opinions."[citation needed] In the heavy metal subculture, some critics use the term to describe bands that are seen as excessively commercial, such as MTV-friendly glam metal groups. Jeffrey Arnett argues that the heavy metal subculture classifies members two categories: "acceptance as an authentic metalhead or rejection as a fake, a poseur."[25] In a 1993 profile of heavy metal fans' "subculture of alienation," the author notes that the scene classified some members as poseurs, that is, heavy metal performers or fans who pretended to be part of the subculture but who were deemed to lack authenticity and sincerity.[26]
Ron Quintana wrote that when Metallica was trying to find a place in the LA metal scene in the early 1980s, it was difficult for the band to "play their [heavy] music and win over a crowd in a land where poseurs ruled and anything fast and heavy was ignored."[27]
David Rocher described Damian Montgomery, frontman of Ritual Carnage, as "an authentic, no-frills, poseur-bashing, nun-devouring kind of gentleman, an enthusiastic metalhead truly in love with the lifestyle he preaches... and unquestionably practises."[28] In 2002, Josh Wood argued that the "credibility of heavy metal" in North America is being destroyed by the genre's demotion to "horror movie soundtracks, wrestling events and, worst of all, the so-called "Mall Core" groups like Linkin Park, SlipKnot and Korn. ... true [metal] devotee’s path to metaldom is perilous and fraught with poseurs."[29]
In an article on Axl Rose, entitled "Ex–‘White-Boy Poseur'", Rose admitted that he has had "time to reflect on heavy-metal posturing" of the last few decades: "We thought we were so badass... [until] N.W.A came out rapping about this world where you walk out of your house and you get shot. ... It was just so clear what stupid little white-boy poseurs we were." [30]
[edit] Hip hop subculture

In the hip hop scene, authenticity or street cred is important. Larry Nager of The Cincinnati Enquirer wrote that rapper 50 Cent has "earned the right to use the trappings of gangsta rap — the macho posturing, the guns, the drugs, the big cars and magnums of champagne. He's not a poseur pretending to be a gangsta; he's the real thing."[31]
A This Are Music review of white rapper Rob Aston criticizes his "fake-gangsta posturing", calling him "a poseur faux-thug cross-bred with a junk punk" who glorifies "guns, bling, cars, bitches, and heroin" to the point that he seems like a parody.[32] A 2004 on BlackAmericaWeb claims that the late Russell Tyrone Jones, better known as rapper Ol' Dirty Bastard, was not "a rough dude from the ’hood" as his official record company biographies claimed. After Jones's death from drugs, the rapper's father claimed that "his late son was a hip-hop poseur, contrary to what music trade magazines published in New York" wrote. Jones' father argued that the "story about him being raised in the Fort Greene [Brooklyn] projects on welfare until he was a child of 13 was a total lie”; instead, he said "their son grew up in a reasonably stable two-parent, two-income home in Brooklyn." The article also refers to another "hip-hop poseur from a decade ago", Lichelle “Boss” Laws. While her record company promoted her as "the most gangsta of girl gangstas", posing her "with automatic weapons" and publicizing claims about prison time and an upbringing on the "hard-knock streets of Detroit", Laws' parents claim that they put her "through private school and enrolled [her] in college in suburban Detroit."[33]
As hip hop has gained a more mainstream popularity, it has spread to new audiences, including well-to-do "white hip-hop kids with gangsta aspirations—dubbed the 'Prep-School Gangsters'" by journalist Nancy Jo Sales. Sales claims that these hip hop fans "wore "Polo and Hilfiger gear trendy among East Coast hip-hop acts" and rode downtown to black neighborhoods in chauffeured limos to experience the ghetto life. Then, "to guard against being labeled poseurs, the prep schoolers started to steal the gear that their parents could readily afford." [34] This trend was highlighted in The Offspring song "Pretty Fly for a White Guy."
A 2008, Utne Reader article describes the rise of "Hipster Rap", which "consists of the most recent crop of MCs and DJs who flout conventional hip-hop fashions, eschewing baggy clothes and gold chains for tight jeans, big sunglasses, the occasional keffiyeh, and other trappings of the hipster lifestyle." The article says this "hipster rap" has been criticized by the hip hop website Unkut and rapper Mazzi, who call the mainstream rappers poseurs or "***s for copping the metrosexual appearances of hipster fashion."[35] Prefix Mag writer Ethan Stanislawski argues that there "have been a slew of angry retorts to the rise of hipster rap," which he says can be summed up as "white kids want the funky otherness of hip-hop...without all the scary black people." [36]
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An on-line reviewer argues that in Norman Mailer's 1956 essay The White Negro, which "lauded a 'white hipster elite' for talking, listening, and playing like black people," Mailer "comes off like a poseur attempting to articulate this minority mimicking a minority, these white kids’ existential attempt to deal with the 'psychic havoc' of the atomic age though jazz and dope."[37] Mark Paytress writes that in 1977, Rolling Stones frontman Mick Jagger called singer/songwriter Patti Smith a "poseur of the worst kind, intellectual bullshit, trying to be a street girl...". [38]
The skateboarding subculture attempts to differentiate between authentic skaters and pretenders. A New York Times article on the 2007 skateboarding scene notes that "some first-time skaters drawn into the sport by catchy choruses or candy-colored sneakers are dismissed as poseurs" who are "walking around with a skateboard as an accessory, holding it in a way we call ‘the mall grab. ..."[39]
A LA City Beat magazine writer argues that "dance music had its Spinal Tap moment some time around the year 2000," arguing that "the prospect of fame, groupies, and easy money by playing other people's records on two turntables brought out the worst poseurs since hair metal ruled the Sunset Strip ... Every dork with spiky locks and a mommy-bought record bag was a self-proclaimed turntable terror."[40] A Slate magazine article argues that the while the independent music scene "can embrace some fascinating hermetic weirdos such as Joanna Newsom or Panda Bear, it's also prone to producing fine-arts-grad poseurs such as the Decemberists and poor-little-rich-boy-or-girl singer songwriters..."[41]
The term "drugstore cowboy" denotes people who dress up like cowboys or cowgirls but whom are not involved in associated cowboy activities such as herding cattle, putting horseshoes on horses, fixing fences and working on ranches.[42]
 
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Wow now we're down to copying and pasting entire websites on posing into one post

Any way, my wife has enough beads. Keeps en hidden in the sock drawer in her closet.
 
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Originally Posted by RHPAW
You can't fool me. That thing on the upper left is a worn-out cam chain tensioner, and I caught a 9 lb. walleye once with that thing on the bottom right.

Too funny
 
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My wife has a couple of Pandora braclets that are full. She has started a Harley one now. I got her a couple more beads for Valentines Day.
 


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