Yeah when I was younger I always thought it was a Firemans cross too, my dad was and still is a volunteer firefighter, and I think thats were I saw one the first time.

 

Kind of on the fence with the Maltese cross thing. Only have the requisite West Coast Choppers version on a shirt my kid bought me.

What I really have a problem with is the "german style" helmet.

Lot's of guys wear that style but what it represents is too personally reprehensible for me to even consider wearing.

Chances are 90% of those who wear them do so because they "look cool" without really looking at the back story. I wonder how many might not if they really thought about it's history.

Off my soapbox now.

Primo

 

Actually Anubis, the maltese cross dates back to medieval times and the Crusades. Its actually a Christian symbol. Its eght points signify loyalty, bravery, and the Church itself. (forgot what the other 5 pts represent). It was appropriated by the *****.

Thats too bad you're offended. I still sport them on my ride.

 

I don't wear jesse james stuff. Not because of the maltese cross, because he sold out. You can buy his junk at walmart. Ever little kid in america is sportin his stuff. Personally, I like what he has done for kids and respect his talent.

 

I like them because of the history of what they originally stood for.

But now that when most people see one they think of the W.C.C. logo. So I do not have any on my bike, because it has lost its signifigance of what it really stands for.

Yes, it is part of the firefighters symbol

 

I live in a city that has a high school named Robert E. Lee. Obviously their mascot is the Rebels and a lot of their symbols are confederate related. Every few years, someone raised a stink about the bars and stars and the other symbols. I'm sorta on the fence on the deal, much like the maltese cross. To me, it all boils down to the attitude of the person sporting the symbol.

 

I understand your concern, and share your heritage. But, watch out about symbols. Meanings change. The Iron Cross is not what you might think it is. Do some research on it as it applies to the motorcycle community.

 

A little off the subject but what about the Spade symbol, where did that come from?

As far as I know the Iron Cross was used in midevil times by the Crusaders and during the **** occupation, but it does appeared in other times in history such as stated it being used by Firefighters. The Iron Cross was a sign that definitly someone would have taken notice of beacuse those wereing the sign where coming with power. Which to me the Iron Cross is something sinister and in our day in age I see it as an outlaw statement or someone representing power.

I am sure it could be argued that the Crusaders and **** Germany had simliar goals of conversion and power.

 

I believe Jesse James took that off a sticker he saw on some guys refridgerator.Not that that makes it right but most people have no idea of the so called "heritage" behind it.I was in a Buddhist temple in Korea and saw what I thought was a swastika.Turns out that the directionthat it is facing is relevant to it's meaning.

 

I understnad that is was around way before hitler, but i still dislike it because of his use of it. Just a personal belief. How it relates to the motorcycle in meaning is? The eight points? Yeah I understand that and agree, but i still cant do it. If you like it, my hat is off to you. No hard feelings, just expressing opinion. Maybe a little too serious today?
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