IMHO: Mesh Jackets and Modular Helmets, Real World Experience
#21
I have a Bering mesh jacket, a light beige colour so that it doesn't attract the sun. Like everyone else as mentioned, it feels a bit hotter if stuck at a red light, but once moving it feels like you're not even wearing it. Avoiding a sunburn and staying more hydrated is also a bonus. Knock on wood I haven't gone down with it yet, so I can't speak much for how well it would hold up....
#22
Here is the data. Read closely and you'll see the numbers for NEW competition-grade leather (the stuff you buy for everyday riding is not up to the standards of the comp stuff), kevlar, and even the better nylon stuff.
While the new comp-grade leather performs better then most nylon, the better kevlar beats out the new comp-grade leather every time.
And yes, the upper-end kevlar is approved by most motorcycle racing circuits.
While the new comp-grade leather performs better then most nylon, the better kevlar beats out the new comp-grade leather every time.
And yes, the upper-end kevlar is approved by most motorcycle racing circuits.
I'd feel better analyzing data from an independent source rather than an online store selling $330 kevlar shirts.
#23
AFAIK, NOTHING is more crash-worthy than leather.
Incidentally, you can get perforated leather which is just as comfortable, if not more so, than the mesh designs. It isn't cheap, but it is available.
#24
Any idea where Motoport obtained the data? I don't see where they site the originator of the data or is it possibly that these are from their own tests?
I'd feel better analyzing data from an independent source rather than an online store selling $330 kevlar shirts.
I'd feel better analyzing data from an independent source rather than an online store selling $330 kevlar shirts.
#25
http://books.google.com/books?id=b88...thetic&f=false
good read on all things protective for m/c riders (if the link won't get you to the article, search "popular mechanics fast finery" and maybe that will pull up the google result)
leather is better than kevlar, but only if it's .9mm or thicker (heavy leather)
denim/lightweight leather lasted about 5' of sliding, kevlar about 20', and competition weight leather about 80'
the article also points out that abrasion resistance is only one part of the equation, impact protection is needed too
good write-up on helmets, and DOT v. Novelty (basically as I keep saying - a novelty just keeps your brains in close proximity to your skull...you'll still enjoy all the freedom of a traumatic brain injury - so if abrasion resistance is a concern, then a DOT helmet should be on your head).... article also covers boots and gloves
good read on all things protective for m/c riders (if the link won't get you to the article, search "popular mechanics fast finery" and maybe that will pull up the google result)
leather is better than kevlar, but only if it's .9mm or thicker (heavy leather)
denim/lightweight leather lasted about 5' of sliding, kevlar about 20', and competition weight leather about 80'
the article also points out that abrasion resistance is only one part of the equation, impact protection is needed too
good write-up on helmets, and DOT v. Novelty (basically as I keep saying - a novelty just keeps your brains in close proximity to your skull...you'll still enjoy all the freedom of a traumatic brain injury - so if abrasion resistance is a concern, then a DOT helmet should be on your head).... article also covers boots and gloves
#26
http://www.harley-davidson.com/mcm/m...bmLocale=en_US
Last edited by skratch; 09-16-2010 at 09:28 AM.
#27
Here is a picture of my jacket I was wearing when I had my accident...I hit the ground at 50-55 mph. I came down on the left side so my left arm and chest took the brunt of the force...I slid quite a ways and I rolled at least twice...The jacket is a Scorpion Hat Trick jacket. I was wearing leather gloves from a leather store too...I had on jeans and boots but no helmet. The jacket was pretty torn and the gloves scuffed pretty well...Out of this whole incident, other than two very small scrapes on my knees, I did not get one minute amount of rash or broken skin anywhere. This is an armored, textile jacket...It saved my *** and I believe I avoided more serious injury (not counting the rash) from having it on. It is armored in the elbows, shoulders and spine....I ended up with a shattered fibula (small bone in the lower leg) around the ankle joint and an almost 90 degree dislocation of my left ankle. Slight sprain of right wrist and a bruised upper left rib....A good quiality leather armored jacket probably would have done this too and I believe nothing cuts the cold wind like leather does...
Can't get pic to load...lemme see wut I can do
Can't get pic to load...lemme see wut I can do
Last edited by WillyD; 09-16-2010 at 09:34 AM.
#28
#29
Wife and I both have the Tour Master Draft Air gear set with mesh jacket and pants. Both have the rain proof liners and the quilted cold weather liners as well. Picked both up for about $300 and change. Love 'em here in south Texas.
Like folks have said in other posts, a little warm at stop lights/signs but very nice when about 5+ mph. The armor is a nice plus (comes with the set) and it keeps the Texas sun from baking you too badly.
Like folks have said in other posts, a little warm at stop lights/signs but very nice when about 5+ mph. The armor is a nice plus (comes with the set) and it keeps the Texas sun from baking you too badly.
#30
I've got a Tourmaster mesh jacket that I ride with all year long here in Florida. It is actually cooler to wear it in the summer than just shirt sleeves. It has the snap in wet and cool liners too. It's about perfect for Florida. Up north I could see it being too light in Winter, but the rest of the year I bet it'd be comfortable.