SERT / Power Commander
So everyone who likes the HD offering works for HD?
#22
09-09-2010, 08:28 AM
Yeah why do that? I went with the PCIII to save money at the time, but the SERT is better. Just have the SERT retuned since you will have to have the PC tuned anyways and it will be cheaper anywas to just not buy the PC.
#23
09-09-2010, 10:27 AM
I have a sert and was thinking about having Dr. Dyno tune my bike in Sturgis, he wanted me to buy a power comander because it was a lot simpler and easier to do the tune. I called my dealer, { who I trust very much} , and he said he would not recomend the power comander, and definetly don't buy one cause he had a box full of them from unsatisfied customers. I am sure there are some people who get along just fine with the PC , but I have been told by numerous people to have my bike tuned using the sert cause I will get better results and I already have it .
I'd bet a high majority unsatisfied PC users went with maps that weren't correct for their bike.
I won't belittle Harleys product because I haven't used it and am unfamiliar with it.
I did have Dr. Dyno put a PC5 in my 08 Dyna at Marcus Dairy a year ago. He also dyno'ed it, and I am beyond satisfied with it. The bike is a different animal. I picked up a mere four horsepower, but is much perkier at any throttle position or gear
It runs >75 degrees cooler due to the extra fuel it's getting, so naturally I lost about 3 or 4 gallons a mile.
I can't put into words how much more enjoyable it is ride since the Dr. did his thing.
The purchase, installation and tuning was $800. You can save a bunch by purchasing and installing yourself, and have the Dr. do the dyno.
In the end, it's how pleased you are with your decision.
Last edited by houndawgg; 09-09-2010 at 10:29 AM.
#24
09-09-2010, 10:31 AM
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Houndawgg...they still hold super sunday @ Marcus? Remember my first time there back in '91 or '92. Nothin like a crazy ride up the Merrick.
Also, I'd love to have Dr tune my ride but the travel costs to get within an area he is at far exceeds the quality I would get. Wish the man would do a little more traveling.
Also, I'd love to have Dr tune my ride but the travel costs to get within an area he is at far exceeds the quality I would get. Wish the man would do a little more traveling.
#26
09-09-2010, 02:01 PM
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Not at all but I won't buy a gizmo that's:
1) married to my bike forever and can't be installed on another bike.
2) modifies the native ECM settings
3) can only be used by a HD dealer or an authorized HD tuner
4) costs an arm and a leg to be tweaked and if not done properly, costs another arm and another leg.
Also, I didn't like the local HD dealer telling me, "buy a SERT because we won't warranty your bike if you have a PC-V". Meanwhile, my PC-V was sold and installed by another HD dealer and even the box of the SERT reads "not for street use, will void the vehicle's warranty".
Edit: Forgot to mention. Since I have the PC-V, I switched from Rinehart to CFR slip-ons and later on from stock headers to V&H Dresser Duals. Cost with the PC-V: Nothing (2 new maps sent to me by Fuel Moto). Cost with the SERT? I'd say at least $500 ..... if I'm lucky.
1) married to my bike forever and can't be installed on another bike.
2) modifies the native ECM settings
3) can only be used by a HD dealer or an authorized HD tuner
4) costs an arm and a leg to be tweaked and if not done properly, costs another arm and another leg.
Also, I didn't like the local HD dealer telling me, "buy a SERT because we won't warranty your bike if you have a PC-V". Meanwhile, my PC-V was sold and installed by another HD dealer and even the box of the SERT reads "not for street use, will void the vehicle's warranty".
Edit: Forgot to mention. Since I have the PC-V, I switched from Rinehart to CFR slip-ons and later on from stock headers to V&H Dresser Duals. Cost with the PC-V: Nothing (2 new maps sent to me by Fuel Moto). Cost with the SERT? I'd say at least $500 ..... if I'm lucky.
Last edited by frenchbiker; 09-09-2010 at 02:10 PM.
#27
09-09-2010, 02:07 PM
Elite HDF Member
I've heard this BS so much from HD dealers that I'm very leery when someone swears by it.
Tell me how the SERT so much better. What does it offer that the PC-V doesn't?
Tell me how the SERT so much better. What does it offer that the PC-V doesn't?
#28
09-09-2010, 03:10 PM
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Every year, it's said it's the last Super Sunday, but it keeps happening.
The remainder of this year, the Dr. hangs around the northeast, but he does go to Daytona, Sturgis, Laconia, Americade, etc. Check his web page, not sure if he does Myrtle Beach.
Houndawgg...they still hold super sunday @ Marcus? Remember my first time there back in '91 or '92. Nothin like a crazy ride up the Merrick.
Also, I'd love to have Dr tune my ride but the travel costs to get within an area he is at far exceeds the quality I would get. Wish the man would do a little more traveling.
Also, I'd love to have Dr tune my ride but the travel costs to get within an area he is at far exceeds the quality I would get. Wish the man would do a little more traveling.
The remainder of this year, the Dr. hangs around the northeast, but he does go to Daytona, Sturgis, Laconia, Americade, etc. Check his web page, not sure if he does Myrtle Beach.
#29
09-09-2010, 05:14 PM
Did your dealer show you that box, he claimed he has?
I'd bet a high majority unsatisfied PC users went with maps that weren't correct for their bike.
I won't belittle Harleys product because I haven't used it and am unfamiliar with it.
I did have Dr. Dyno put a PC5 in my 08 Dyna at Marcus Dairy a year ago. He also dyno'ed it, and I am beyond satisfied with it. The bike is a different animal. I picked up a mere four horsepower, but is much perkier at any throttle position or gear
It runs >75 degrees cooler due to the extra fuel it's getting, so naturally I lost about 3 or 4 gallons a mile.
I can't put into words how much more enjoyable it is ride since the Dr. did his thing.
The purchase, installation and tuning was $800. You can save a bunch by purchasing and installing yourself, and have the Dr. do the dyno.
In the end, it's how pleased you are with your decision.
I'd bet a high majority unsatisfied PC users went with maps that weren't correct for their bike.
I won't belittle Harleys product because I haven't used it and am unfamiliar with it.
I did have Dr. Dyno put a PC5 in my 08 Dyna at Marcus Dairy a year ago. He also dyno'ed it, and I am beyond satisfied with it. The bike is a different animal. I picked up a mere four horsepower, but is much perkier at any throttle position or gear
It runs >75 degrees cooler due to the extra fuel it's getting, so naturally I lost about 3 or 4 gallons a mile.
I can't put into words how much more enjoyable it is ride since the Dr. did his thing.
The purchase, installation and tuning was $800. You can save a bunch by purchasing and installing yourself, and have the Dr. do the dyno.
In the end, it's how pleased you are with your decision.
#30
09-09-2010, 05:25 PM
"So everyone who likes the HD offering works for HD?"