MC racer killed at VIR by a 12 year old on a 250 doing 80mph?
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Know what's stupid?
Arguing over who was the most stupid, the race track, sanctioning body, kid, kid's parents, the deceased.
Everyone there took their chances allowing a kid to race and those that chose to race against him. Along with that people have crashes and die as a result from these crashes on the track.
It's always sad to see an accident let alone a fatal one. But after one rolls the dice you can't unroll craps.
Freedom of choice. Same freedom of choice people clamour out against mandatory helmut laws. Can't have it both ways. Though human nature to try.
Arguing over who was the most stupid, the race track, sanctioning body, kid, kid's parents, the deceased.
Everyone there took their chances allowing a kid to race and those that chose to race against him. Along with that people have crashes and die as a result from these crashes on the track.
It's always sad to see an accident let alone a fatal one. But after one rolls the dice you can't unroll craps.
Freedom of choice. Same freedom of choice people clamour out against mandatory helmut laws. Can't have it both ways. Though human nature to try.
#13
But, you would take your daughter(how old is she?) on public highways not dressed in full race gear with vehicles going those same speeds and weighing up to 80k lbs and going in all directions? I think the 12 yo kid was in a much safer environment on the race track.
Sorry to hear about this accident and my condolences to all involved.
Sorry to hear about this accident and my condolences to all involved.
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One of my scariest days working as a corner marshal at Barber Motorsports Park was when the Red Bull Rookie Challenge Cup was qualifying. 12-15 year olds on KTM race spec bikes.
They could ride better than most of the adult riders that come out for a track day. Later that year, one of the riders was killed. It sucked.
The brunt of the responsibilty is that of the parent. If they sign the waver, then the kid is good to go.
They could ride better than most of the adult riders that come out for a track day. Later that year, one of the riders was killed. It sucked.
The brunt of the responsibilty is that of the parent. If they sign the waver, then the kid is good to go.
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I agree Merlin, and I'm surprised he did... I'm not sure if I'm shocked, angry, or devastated... I just spoke to Rob last week... just a horrible tragic loss... my deepest sympathies go out to his father Bob...
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A lot depends on the kid and his abilities. How old was Jeff Gordon when he started driving some pretty high powered race cars and I believe he was still a teenager when he got into NASCAR. It's possible that even the most seasoned, skilled rider could not have avoided running into the accident. Don't think there's enough information to vilify the kid or anyone else.
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But, you would take your daughter(how old is she?) on public highways not dressed in full race gear with vehicles going those same speeds and weighing up to 80k lbs and going in all directions? I think the 12 yo kid was in a much safer environment on the race track.
Sorry to hear about this accident and my condolences to all involved.
Sorry to hear about this accident and my condolences to all involved.
Do you wear full race gear when on the highway? I can't say I have ever seen anyone do that. We do wear helmets, long pants, no shorts. ALWAYS. Oh yea, they are 6 and 8.
He was safer on a track? Yea, I bet everyone there feels the same way.
Sounds like you ought to sell your bike and become a librarian.
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I was racing 125cc motocross at 13-16 i could only reach the ground with one foot, 250cc wasnt any taller, and only a bit faster top end, in fact i could have raced 250cc at 14 if i chose and did not want to...speeds there was not always slow, lots of kids riding those bikes...it was a race on a course, there are extreme risks involved, wether adult or child, it would not have mattered either way the age of the person riding the bike, an adult could have hit him just as easily and killed him just as dead.
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So, an adult? racer loses control in the turn and crashes, another adult racer crashes while trying to avoid that crash and then the kid coming into the turn (with two wrecks in front of him) crashes into him. And this is the kids fault?
Jim
Jim
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