WTF? check out this newspaper article about a motorcycle crash
#11
08-05-2010 | 01:35 PM
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The crash is still under investigation...The guy was involved in a head on crash at 2:45am. Not alot of details other than the police mention that he was wearing a helmet...but it was not a safety approved one.
I think this is complete BS and really doesn't prove a damn thing. For all anyone knows he would have died whether he was wearing an "approved" helmet or not. No other details other than this helmet BS. nothing about him dying from massive head injuries etc...Just that he died and had the "wrong" type of helmet.
A friend of my brother was hit head on several years ago while riding a Goldwing. He had all top-notch safety equipment including a full face helmet...he died.
I'm not against helmets, but I am against this barage of helmet law propaganda.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...n_collisi.html
I think this is complete BS and really doesn't prove a damn thing. For all anyone knows he would have died whether he was wearing an "approved" helmet or not. No other details other than this helmet BS. nothing about him dying from massive head injuries etc...Just that he died and had the "wrong" type of helmet.
A friend of my brother was hit head on several years ago while riding a Goldwing. He had all top-notch safety equipment including a full face helmet...he died.
I'm not against helmets, but I am against this barage of helmet law propaganda.
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapi...n_collisi.html
About 3 months ago a buddy of mine hit a 4 Runner head on. He came away with two broken legs and some minor road rash. AND... he was wearing a non-approved beanie helmet.
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#12
08-05-2010 | 01:46 PM
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A man and his teenaged son just had a wreck around here the other day and the son was wearing a helmet and the father no helmet. Went over a guard rail and down an embankment, both transported to the hospital with non-life threatening injuries. You could argue this proves helmets don't make a difference. Not taking a side on the helmet debate (Idaho=non helmet required) just sayin that sometimes luck and a little help from a greater power can make the difference in whether you make it or you don't. JMO
#14
08-05-2010 | 03:36 PM
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About two months ago I was going to visit a friend and was approaching an intersection. As I was stopping, this bike was turning left in front of me. Then the rear of the bike got squirrely, and down it went. I watched it like it was slow motion, the rider had the death grip on the bars as it hit the road, and the riders helmet bounced off the road. It really shook me up for a few. I pulled over to assist the rider who was a chick about 25. At first she said she felt ok, but after a few minutes said she was feeling light headed. The police arrived and called for an ambulance to check her out. I picked up and looked at her helmet and there was a good size scratch and a small crack where it made contact. I'm sure the last thing this chick thought would happen was her head smacking the ground. She only rode less then a mile from her house. I'm sure there's alot of people that say they've riddin thousands of miles with no problems, but I've seen first hand you cant tell when you'll have one.,,
#15
08-05-2010 | 04:09 PM
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There will always be practical reasons for wearing helmets and there will always be personal reasons for not wearing them.
Same thing for seat belts. Years ago, our son was not wearing a seat belt when the pick-up he was a passenger in flipped three times and slid some. He'd went down under the dash to the floor. When all was done, the roof over his seat was sitting in that seat. A seat belt would've done him in for sure.
I can see both sides, and I believe one should do what he/she/it believes is right. What I do not believe is that the law should require helmets and belts - and so many other things that is a free man's right to decide.
I do believe that insurance companies make out when these kind of restrictions are in place and that these laws are "feel good".
I'd be interested to know if non-helmeted states are the same states that are also non-seat belt, as I would suggest that perhaps "non-..." states respect freedom rather than nanny concepts.
As my sig states: For Whatever The Value.
Same thing for seat belts. Years ago, our son was not wearing a seat belt when the pick-up he was a passenger in flipped three times and slid some. He'd went down under the dash to the floor. When all was done, the roof over his seat was sitting in that seat. A seat belt would've done him in for sure.
I can see both sides, and I believe one should do what he/she/it believes is right. What I do not believe is that the law should require helmets and belts - and so many other things that is a free man's right to decide.
I do believe that insurance companies make out when these kind of restrictions are in place and that these laws are "feel good".
I'd be interested to know if non-helmeted states are the same states that are also non-seat belt, as I would suggest that perhaps "non-..." states respect freedom rather than nanny concepts.
As my sig states: For Whatever The Value.
#18
08-05-2010 | 05:41 PM
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In Minnesota, we successfully fought and overturned our helmet law when MSF became more of a factor. Each cyclist pays a licensing fee that is supposedly dedicated to supporting training. If you are 18 and properly licensed, we can go helmetless. Riders 18and over can receive their license by successfully completing the basic MSF course.
It always amazed me that when our state passed mandatory seat belt laws, the public rolled over and played dead. First it started with, "If you are stopped for any other offense, and don't have you seat belt on, you could be ticketed." After a few years, it was amended to "You can be stopped for not wearing a seat belt."
Myself, I always wear both, but that's been my choice, not the government.
It always amazed me that when our state passed mandatory seat belt laws, the public rolled over and played dead. First it started with, "If you are stopped for any other offense, and don't have you seat belt on, you could be ticketed." After a few years, it was amended to "You can be stopped for not wearing a seat belt."
Myself, I always wear both, but that's been my choice, not the government.
#19
08-05-2010 | 05:43 PM
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Look further & see what you find
Glad to see that you edited your post as you must have realized from my location that I Don't have the choice not to wear one.
I just think that it is irresponsible reporting to report that particular detail and nothing else...as the crash is still under investigation.
I just think that it is irresponsible reporting to report that particular detail and nothing else...as the crash is still under investigation.
a red light and t-boned him. Six months later she was charged with vehicular
manslaughter WITHOUT gross negligence - a misdemeanor. As it turns out the woman,
Shannon Urias, has a married sister that is a dispatcher for the PD - yup, husband is a
cop. Doubt this story - google Lonny Saverino - RIP.
