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Old 08-06-2010, 01:37 AM
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In 1971 I was stationed in 29 Palms california USMC. I bought a '62 pontiac. When I looked under the hood it had a little green thing in the water jacket on the intake manifold .

It was a temp sensor that fiddled with the vacuum advance. The first smog control.

Ya'll can Pi** and moan all ya want to. They will get it passed, it will come.

If you want to get away from it. Move your a@@ east. I'm in Tennessee. It takes at least 5 years for their crap to get here.
 
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But it gets there!
 
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so, how to explain??
 
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Old 08-06-2010, 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wlbowers
In 1971 I was stationed in 29 Palms california USMC. I bought a '62 pontiac. When I looked under the hood it had a little green thing in the water jacket on the intake manifold .

It was a temp sensor that fiddled with the vacuum advance. The first smog control.

Ya'll can Pi** and moan all ya want to. They will get it passed, it will come.

If you want to get away from it. Move your a@@ east. I'm in Tennessee. It takes at least 5 years for their crap to get here.
A '62 pontiac that you bought god knows where had smog control on it? And on top of that you blame California for a "smog device" on said Pontiac? Ex-wife in California got you bitter?
 
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A '62 pontiac that you bought god knows where had smog control on it? And on top of that you blame California for a "smog device" on said Pontiac? Ex-wife in California got you bitter?
Don't know how old you are. I'm 59. I was there in California when they Made it Mandatory to install the "new smog control device". If you brought the car onto base it had to comply with the state.

When I was in 29 palms, I helped several friends install the thing on their cars. It would not let the vacuum advance work until the car warmed up.

And yea I blame california. They started it.
 
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i can understand wanting to regulate smog but what that state doesn't need is people selling bikes and driving more cars. you would need a prius to reach the MPG of your harley.

nitpicking bikers seems a bit counterproductive towards their end goal of less smog and more MPG's on the freeways out of the vehicles that ride them.

that said the state is a disaster i hated it and couldn't wait to leave. they have entire communities of illegals going to public school subsidized by the american tax payer. hospitals, schools and absolute disaster and they ignore these problems and just keep going after the good tax paying middle class to foot the bill for thier incompetance. $700 to register your new car, it's insane i couldn't wait to leave that state. it should secceed and just become its own communist country.

talk about a state that needs to clean house.
 
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The bill as it was passed as of JUNE 30 2010.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 27202.1 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
27202.1. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not
park, use, or operate a motorcycle, registered in the State of
California, that does not bear the required applicable federal
Environmental Protection Agency exhaust system label pursuant to
Subparts D (commencing with Section 205.150) and E (commencing with
Section 205.164) of Part 205 of Title 40 of the Code of Federal
Regulations. A violation of this section shall be considered a
mechanical violation and a peace officer shall not stop a motorcycle
solely on a suspicion of a violation of this section.
A peace officer
shall cite a violation of this section as a secondary infraction.
(b) A violation of this section is punishable as follows:
(1) For a first conviction, by a fine of not less than fifty
dollars ($50), nor more than one hundred dollars ($100).
(2) For a second or subsequent conviction, by a fine of not less
than one hundred dollars ($100), nor more than two hundred fifty
dollars ($250).
(c) (1) The notice to appear issued or
complaint filed for a violation of this section shall require that
the person to whom the notice to appear is issued, or against whom
the complaint is filed, produce proof of correction pursuant to
Section 40150.
(2) Upon producing proof of correction to the satisfaction of the
court, the court may dismiss the penalty imposed pursuant to
subdivision (b) for a first violation of this section.
(d) (1) This section is applicable to a person operating a
motorcycle that is manufactured on or after January 1, 2011, or a
motorcycle with aftermarket exhaust system equipment that is
manufactured on or after January 1, 2011.
(2) Penalties imposed pursuant to this section are in addition to
penalties imposed pursuant to any other applicable laws or
regulations.
(3) This section does not supersede, negate, or otherwise alter
any other applicable laws or regulations.
SEC. 2. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to
Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because
the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school
district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or
infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty
for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the
Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the
meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution.
 
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Originally Posted by wlbowers
Don't know how old you are. I'm 59. I was there in California when they Made it Mandatory to install the "new smog control device". If you brought the car onto base it had to comply with the state.

When I was in 29 palms, I helped several friends install the thing on their cars. It would not let the vacuum advance work until the car warmed up.

And yea I blame california. They started it.
LMAO, I forgot about the stupid things. Really bright almost neon green.

SEMPER FI DEVIL DOG!
 
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Originally Posted by Nikon D700
With the type of nut job politians that you have out there, do you really think a public display of dessention is going to do anything but bolster their attitude?
You mean you don't think surrounding the capitol with thousands of motorcycles owned by those who like loud exhaust, right before they vote on a bll to quiet exhaust, is going to work? Maybe the legislators won't be able to hear well enough to debate and they'll just give up.
 
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Originally Posted by BBStacker
The bill as it was passed as of JUNE 30 2010.

THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:

SECTION 1. Section 27202.1 is added to the Vehicle Code, to read:
27202.1. (a) Notwithstanding any other law, a person shall not
park, use, or operate a motorcycle, registered in the State of
California, that does not bear the required applicable federal
Environmental Protection Agency exhaust system label pursuant to
Subparts D (commencing with Section 205.150) and E (commencing with
Section 205.164) of Part 205 of Title 40 of the Code of Federal
Regulations. A violation of this section shall be considered a
mechanical violation and a peace officer shall not stop a motorcycle
solely on a suspicion of a violation of this section.
A peace officer
shall cite a violation of this section as a secondary infraction.
(b) A violation of this section is punishable as follows:
(1) For a first conviction, by a fine of not less than fifty
dollars ($50), nor more than one hundred dollars ($100).
(2) For a second or subsequent conviction, by a fine of not less
than one hundred dollars ($100), nor more than two hundred fifty
dollars ($250).
(c) (1) The notice to appear issued or
complaint filed for a violation of this section shall require that
the person to whom the notice to appear is issued, or against whom
the complaint is filed, produce proof of correction pursuant to
Section 40150.
(2) Upon producing proof of correction to the satisfaction of the
court, the court may dismiss the penalty imposed pursuant to
subdivision (b) for a first violation of this section.
(d) (1) This section is applicable to a person operating a
motorcycle that is manufactured on or after January 1, 2011, or a
motorcycle with aftermarket exhaust system equipment that is
manufactured on or after January 1, 2011.
(2) Penalties imposed pursuant to this section are in addition to
penalties imposed pursuant to any other applicable laws or
regulations.
(3) This section does not supersede, negate, or otherwise alter
any other applicable laws or regulations.
SEC. 2. No reimbursement is required by this act pursuant to
Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California Constitution because
the only costs that may be incurred by a local agency or school
district will be incurred because this act creates a new crime or
infraction, eliminates a crime or infraction, or changes the penalty
for a crime or infraction, within the meaning of Section 17556 of the
Government Code, or changes the definition of a crime within the
meaning of Section 6 of Article XIII B of the California
Constitution.
Where do I send my 400 dollar check so I can put any exhaust I want on and bypass the fix it part?
 


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