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Old 06-17-2010, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by paguy
Just a thought. Maybe not the octane. Sounds like you got water in the gas.
That's what I'm thinking. I normally run 93 in the Roadking and it is very smooth. When I have put 87 in it will run rough.

The sporty will run like crap with 87. It does ok on 93 and just loves 100LL (aviation gas).
 
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My sporty runs well on 95 - 100LL would be good to try but wallet busting here in the UK.
 
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When detonation is detected the spark is only retarded momentarily. On of the most famous Corvette engineers for race tuning Corvettes told everyone at a seminar that unless you were at the strip or on a race track that high octane was a total waste. Corvette like HD suggests 91 octane.

I run 89)which is the lowest in this area of 89-91-93 in all my HD's (5), Corvettes(3) and a Viper without ever experiencing pinging. I can run them through the gears with a lot of gas pedal. Never had them ping.

I will go by what the trained and experienced experts say.
 
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We,, son and I only use 92,or 93 oct here never had problem,,,

Did get some water 2yrs ago in the fall, gas treatment took care of that..
 
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You never know today,Ethanol,water,who knows what else flows out of the nozzle.Try a known good tank of fuel and see if it smooths out.
 
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Bad gas or you dropped something in the tank possible... basically all I run is 93, you can't even get 91 in NY except for select stations here or there (some Sunoco's), premium here is all 93... never had a problem.
 
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Probably bad gas. However, I was amazed to find that engines get "used to" a particular grade with the new engine management systems. When gas got high I switched to lowest octane in my cage. It occasionally pinged and complained during acceleration for a couple of weeks and then gradually smoothed out and ran perfectly. The transition was not immediate.
 
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Originally Posted by Wicked Cricket
Bad gas or you dropped something in the tank possible... basically all I run is 93, you can't even get 91 in NY except for select stations here or there (some Sunoco's), premium here is all 93... never had a problem.
At high-altitude, you don't get the sea-level range of 87-93 at gas stations. You get 85.5-91.

That's why it was so unusual to find a place selling 93 around here.
 
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Hmm...

Interesting thread with lots to think about.

In my area, the most common combination of octanes is 87-89-93 and almost always it is 10% ethanol.

With cars I have always understood that if it says "Recommended" then I don't necessarily need to use the rating it suggests. I noticed that my H-D owner's manual also reads "Recommended" when it says to use 91 in my bike. As a first time scoot owner, I did not want to take chances but I also didn't want to spend as much on gas riding my Harley as I do riding my car because I have to use the most expensive fuel. I decided to compromise and I use the 89 and have done so almost exclusively. As far as I can tell I have not had any problems at all. I am going on almost two years of owning my bike and I ride an average of about 240-300 miles a week. I have never put anything less than 89 and on several occasions when there is a good drop in price I may splurge and get the 93 but honestly, I have never seen any improvement or determent to the higher octane. Is it because I have to run it for some time before such changes are noticeable?
 
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Originally Posted by will2002
Maybe it was a BP station, and they had a little too much water in their gasoline.
Will that my friend was a good one! LOL
 


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