Originally Posted by NSCoyote

to the OP most clubs run hard fast and tight, they are used to it hell you would hate to see me and the guys i run around with riding on the highway, while we aint a patched club or anythign liek that when where riding its usualy 130-140kmh and not much more then a few feet between us, if the traffic slows down will split single and go around.

as for risking everyones lives imho when it comes to speeds above a parking lot the only life i am risking is my own when riding and tis my right to risk it. and before ya get on to the "theres other people on the road" ya and if i clip someone or they clip me i really doubt they are gonna be hurt

Originally Posted by sucherman

The flow interupted...

Originally Posted by krwould

It may be your life to risk and your right to risk it but doing something that would put others at risk.... well isn't that negligence? For instance if you cut me off, I swerve so I don't take you out and hit someone else and injure them... your not responsible??

Originally Posted by mcg

Witnessed a good reason yesterday why cagers get ticked at us. I was coming out of Cincinnati at 12:30 on I-75 heading up the 'big' hill into Ky (Those of you who have ridden 75 know it well). I was in my van (not on my RK) doing 65 in the left lane (55 speed limit) behind a string of cars. Hear the roar behind me of 5 "outlaws" from Georgia riding together (all baggers). Maybe 4 feet off my tail. I had no where to go because of traffic in front of me. It's four lanes wide up the hill with slow trucks in the right two lanes. They get ticked doing 65 and start weaving across 4 lanes (all five of them) in and out of cars cutting people off at about 3 feet. I braked hard when they cut back in front of me. I watched this all the way up the hill and waited for them to kill themselves and cause a lot of other people to wreck. Another five miles down the interstate and they are still at it.
They point here is that I could care less if they want to ride like that when they are alone, but on the interstate with cars jammed up doing 70+ and they are playing chicken with everyone's life....well, that's where that kind of jerk riding has no place.....IMO And just in case someone in that pack is reading this and you get ticked....I don't think your freedom to ride like a BA entitles you to put other lives at risk like that.
That said, I do hope they made it home in one piece.

Originally Posted by NSCoyote

well i suppose it ould depend on ho you view it, and it would boil don to semantics really.

on one hand it could be viewed that way, but there is always another way to view it .

yes i cut you off, BUT you made a concious choice to swerve to avoid me, so if you look at it from that angle then whos fault would it be mine for choosing to cut you off or yours for choosing to swerve, in my mind had you taken me out it would be my own fault for cutting you off if you clip me.

just another way to look at it