loud pipes ?
#91
06-06-2010 | 04:31 PM
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I live in the city that is doing this. There are bikes running straight pipes that are damn load even ones that have baffles that do not reach current sound regs. BUT I have a few complaints about this new bylaw. 1 There already is noise bylaws in effect here try enforcing them.2 This is aimed at motorcycles only{Harleys are the direct aim of this law]
City buses and any construction equip also gas powered lawn mowers and those annoying ice cream trucks would'nt comply with this law. I heard that even the city HD motorcycle fleet would be non compliant wonder how many tickets they'll get?
City has a big Indy car race just north of downtown every year-Non compliant. The list goes on and on and on. If this passes,enforcement must be across the board for all motorized machines not just a specific group. I can see alot of court challenges coming based on our charter of rights act and quite a few others.
MilesJ read your post and agree completely. Just one thing you missed.......There is'nt any money in arresting murderers and rapists and thieves.
City buses and any construction equip also gas powered lawn mowers and those annoying ice cream trucks would'nt comply with this law. I heard that even the city HD motorcycle fleet would be non compliant wonder how many tickets they'll get?
City has a big Indy car race just north of downtown every year-Non compliant. The list goes on and on and on. If this passes,enforcement must be across the board for all motorized machines not just a specific group. I can see alot of court challenges coming based on our charter of rights act and quite a few others.
MilesJ read your post and agree completely. Just one thing you missed.......There is'nt any money in arresting murderers and rapists and thieves.
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#92
06-06-2010 | 04:42 PM
My point exactly!!! Politics has become more of satisfying the desires of the few while ignoring the needs of the masses. We don't need more laws, we need to enforce the ones we already have!
There are far more important issues that need LEO attention than having to run around with a decibel meter hunting down "non-compliant" exhaust sytems.
There are far more important issues that need LEO attention than having to run around with a decibel meter hunting down "non-compliant" exhaust sytems.
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#93
06-06-2010 | 04:46 PM
Posers A$$. I would probably be safe to say that I was riding motorcyles when you were being pushed around in a stroller, sucking your thumb, and sh!tting in diapers.
My bike, like the majority of Harleys, is not stock. It also is not overly loud. Is it legal by todays standards, probably not. I am not condoning the idiot with drag pipes that feels the need to "gas it" around every corner to see how many car alarms he can set off or how many windows he can rattle. My point is that with every government regulation enacted to "protect us from ourselves" we creep ever so closer to becoming a communistic society.
My bike, like the majority of Harleys, is not stock. It also is not overly loud. Is it legal by todays standards, probably not. I am not condoning the idiot with drag pipes that feels the need to "gas it" around every corner to see how many car alarms he can set off or how many windows he can rattle. My point is that with every government regulation enacted to "protect us from ourselves" we creep ever so closer to becoming a communistic society.
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06-06-2010 | 05:30 PM
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Will, you missed the whole point, When you start this whole PC crap you skip the whole cause of the problem. The problem is for riders to use their heads when they are riding. If they are going to modify use your head when you ride. There is no government liberal consiracy here, it is just common sense.
What boggles my mind is why you care so much and how your attacking every other persons opinion because you think your so high and mighty with your 50 state legal slip ons?
I dont see what your problem is its not like your saying, "i have loud pipes but i hate the guys who have extremely loud pipes ( straight pipes etc) making me look bad". You have legal pipes so what do you care about anybody else for?
And whos to say your "legal" pipes haven't made someone else cringe when you drove by them in the first place it sounds hypocritical at best. It also sounds like people here are trying to convince themselves that they are so damn righteous with everything they do
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06-06-2010 | 06:49 PM
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You have the right of free speech and the rest of the Bill of Rights. You do not have the "right" to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater; you do not have the "right" to carry a gun into a government building; you do not have the "right" to smoke in most restaurants; you do not have the "right" to create noise that is offensive by community standards. I am concerned about retaining my "right" to ride a motorcycle. It is a small minority of bikers that create the most problems. However, if the government casts a net of legislation to catch those offenders, it will inevitably catch many of us who are doing nothing wrong. If I can help rein in some of this "rebellious group" and avoid government intervention then I will do so. I suspect I'm wasting my breath though as almost everybody reading this is convinced that they are not part of the problem. Believe it or not, showing a little consideration for your fellow man is not a terrible way to live.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
I'll get off my soapbox now.
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06-06-2010 | 07:01 PM
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Will, you missed the whole point, When you start this whole PC crap you skip the whole cause of the problem. The problem is for riders to use their heads when they are riding. If they are going to modify use your head when you ride. There is no government liberal consiracy here, it is just common sense.
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06-06-2010 | 07:54 PM
