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Old 05-31-2010, 05:39 PM
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Now that the riding season is here there's been much talk on military installations about personal protective gear and sometimes for good reason when the circumstances involve an 18 year old full of testosterone on a 1000 cc crotch rocket. But on the other hand there are many responsible riders who ride cruisers who are scrutinized for the accidents and fatalities from the sport bike crowd. One commander had the ***** to say in an open forum that if he caught anyone riding off base without a helmet, he would have their SGLI cancelled. I don't think he can do this

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Here we go again............
 
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I guess you'll have to as long as the Commander says so?
 
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What don't you understand about; You Are Government Property ?
 
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I have friends in the Navy, they are required to wear DOT helmets regardless of what the law says. They also have mandatory safety classes, not sur how often though.
 
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What don't you understand about; You Are Government Property ?
Another BS myth. A person, even one with a military contract, is NOT government property. You still have rights. In fact, if you're ever accused of a crime in the military, you'll find out that your rights are protected to a much greater degree in the military than they are in the civilian system.
 
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G.I. = Goverment Issue..... one each
 
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Beware of barrack's lawyers. SGLI should be good-to-go, but not so all other VA benefits should a line of duty determination not go your way http://usmilitary.about.com/library/...cles/bllod.htm

As far as not being required to follow safety rules when riding off base, you might want to brush up on DODI 6055.4. It applies as long as you're on active duty, on or off-base. Disregard it at your own peril should it all go south and your CO order a line of duty determination investigation.
 
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I don't have the stats but would bet that chances of surviving a crash are greatly improved when wearing the correct PPE on or off base. You don't have to bundle up to ride safe. If you are an Army Sgt you should know better and lead by example by showing the young pups that riding safe means wearing a helmet in hot temps. Why do you think the Cdr made those comments? Answer that question truthfully and you might understand where he is coming from. Maybe it's not peace of mind. Maybe he saw something unsafe or someone got hurt on a bike.
 
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The fact that wearing a helmet along with all of your PPE is safe as well as the right thing to do in the Army isn't the issue being made (I don't think). The CDR shouldn't make stuff like that up whether it helps his cause or not. Soldiers don't take to lying well, and they sure as hell aren't going to have any respect for someone who lies to them. I have been teaching "Joe's" for long enough to know that...
 


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