Do You Wear the Flag?
#163
05-23-2010, 09:58 PM
Road Master
I do have a patch on my jacket. I don't get wearing the flag as fashion. Do-rags and t-shirts don't say patriotism to me, it says fashion choice.
The confederate flag I also don't get. Not because of whatever version of history I might believe. I just could not support any group of people who try (tried) to destroy the United States of America. The CSA attempted to disolve the "union" of states. I would not support that action now and I can't support those who did.
What I do support is your right to wear whatever the hell you want.
The confederate flag I also don't get. Not because of whatever version of history I might believe. I just could not support any group of people who try (tried) to destroy the United States of America. The CSA attempted to disolve the "union" of states. I would not support that action now and I can't support those who did.
What I do support is your right to wear whatever the hell you want.
#164
05-24-2010, 01:33 AM
I can't believe I read this whole thread... like a book I couldn't put down. You can learn a lot about people through their posts on threads such as this.
Oh, right forearm tattoo, and up high on my club vest.
Looks like this might be something else that if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.
Oh, right forearm tattoo, and up high on my club vest.
Looks like this might be something else that if I have to explain, you wouldn't understand.
#165
05-24-2010, 08:49 AM
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Every time I ride the flag is proudly displayed. My helmet is a flag helmet, and the flag flys off the center of my tour pak everyday. It also flys at my home every day also, and of course lit at night. We all displayed flags after 9-11, and then about a year or so later they went back into peoples garages. Our soldiers, sailors, marines and airmen fight and die everyday to defend the freedoms we enjoy. The least we could do is honor them by displaying our flag. Always ride with respect.
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#166
05-24-2010, 01:16 PM
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Someone brought up "Flag Etiquette" and how they should be displayed on motorcycles. This is from the Indiana Legion Riders web site:
US Flag Only
If only the US Flag is on your bike, it should either be at the center, or to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective when facing forward.
US Flag And One Other Flag Of Any Type
If the US Flag is on your bike with another, it should be to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective. If the other flag is that of another nation, it should be the same size and at the same height of the US Flag - NO flag should ever be displayed higher than the US Flag.
US Flag And More Than One Other Non-National Flag
If the US Flag is on your bike with several other non-national flags (POW/MIA, ALR, Eagles, Service Banners, etc.), it should be at center and higher than any of the other flags.
US Flag And More Than One Flag Including Those Of Other Nations
If the US Flag is displayed on your bike with those of any other nation, the flags should be same size and at the same height, with the US Flag to marching right (right side of the vehicle), and others arranged in alphabetical order to the left. Other flags should be arranged in order of decreasing importance - Nations first, states (in order of admittance) and territories second, military third (in order of establishment), and then any others. Again, no flag should fly higher than the US Flag, but the US Flag should be no higher than that of any other nations displayed.
Rationale
It’s argued that, since the small bike flags we use are all but invisible from the front (when mounted on the rear), the concept of "Flag's own right" should be used with the vantage from the rear of the bike. (This would place the Flag on the on left-hand, rear of your bike). This concept, unfortunately, overlooks a more applicable concept.
If you equate the motion of your bike with marching, and you equate traffic with a procession, another portion of the Flag Code becomes the obvious choice for display of the Flag alone, or
with another:
Rule 9: "The Flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags should be either on the marching right; that is, the Flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line."
The second portion of this rule does not work well with most motorcycles, since there usually is no means to mount the Flag in front (in the direction of travel) of the others if all flags are to be mounted at the rear of the bike. In this case, we rely on:
Rule 10: "The Flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs." Included in this would be POW/MIA flags and American Legion Riders flags.
Finally, if you are displaying another country's flag along with the US Flag, they both should be at the same height and the same size, and the US Flag should be displayed on the right side (again, marching right). This is basically Rule 11.
Rule 11: "When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), State (host state first, then others in the order of admission) and territories (Washington DC, Puerto Rico, etc.), Military (in order of establishment: Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard), then other."
Flag Placement On Motorcycles
Flag Code Explained
Flag Code Explained
US Flag Only
If only the US Flag is on your bike, it should either be at the center, or to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective when facing forward.
US Flag And One Other Flag Of Any Type
If the US Flag is on your bike with another, it should be to its "marching right" - on the right side of the motorcycle to the rider's perspective. If the other flag is that of another nation, it should be the same size and at the same height of the US Flag - NO flag should ever be displayed higher than the US Flag.
US Flag And More Than One Other Non-National Flag
If the US Flag is on your bike with several other non-national flags (POW/MIA, ALR, Eagles, Service Banners, etc.), it should be at center and higher than any of the other flags.
US Flag And More Than One Flag Including Those Of Other Nations
If the US Flag is displayed on your bike with those of any other nation, the flags should be same size and at the same height, with the US Flag to marching right (right side of the vehicle), and others arranged in alphabetical order to the left. Other flags should be arranged in order of decreasing importance - Nations first, states (in order of admittance) and territories second, military third (in order of establishment), and then any others. Again, no flag should fly higher than the US Flag, but the US Flag should be no higher than that of any other nations displayed.
Rationale
It’s argued that, since the small bike flags we use are all but invisible from the front (when mounted on the rear), the concept of "Flag's own right" should be used with the vantage from the rear of the bike. (This would place the Flag on the on left-hand, rear of your bike). This concept, unfortunately, overlooks a more applicable concept.
If you equate the motion of your bike with marching, and you equate traffic with a procession, another portion of the Flag Code becomes the obvious choice for display of the Flag alone, or
with another:
Rule 9: "The Flag, when carried in a procession with another flag or flags should be either on the marching right; that is, the Flag's own right, or, if there is a line of other flags, in front of the center of that line."
The second portion of this rule does not work well with most motorcycles, since there usually is no means to mount the Flag in front (in the direction of travel) of the others if all flags are to be mounted at the rear of the bike. In this case, we rely on:
Rule 10: "The Flag of the United States of America should be at the center and at the highest point of the group when a number of flags of States or localities or pennants of societies are grouped and displayed from staffs." Included in this would be POW/MIA flags and American Legion Riders flags.
Finally, if you are displaying another country's flag along with the US Flag, they both should be at the same height and the same size, and the US Flag should be displayed on the right side (again, marching right). This is basically Rule 11.
Rule 11: "When flags of two or more nations are displayed, they are to be flown from separate staffs of the same height. The flags should be of approximately equal size. International usage forbids the display of the flag of one nation above that of another nation in time of peace. The order of precedence for flags generally is National flags (US first, then others in alphabetical order in English), State (host state first, then others in the order of admission) and territories (Washington DC, Puerto Rico, etc.), Military (in order of establishment: Army, Marine Corps, Navy, Air Force, Coast Guard), then other."
#167
05-24-2010, 04:48 PM
The flag should only be displayed upside down as a distress signal. If you displayed it that way because of Cheney why didn't you take action and display it properly when Obama took over? Do you still distressed? I am proud of both our previous and current president for different reasons. The most important part of my definition of patriotism is that it is a verb not a noun. Patriotism is best expressed through some type of service to our nation or communities. The community and country becomes better though our collective service. I express it by serving my nation for the last 21 years as a Green Beret. What is your definition?
#168
05-24-2010, 11:56 PM
At ease soldier...21 yr geen beret, I salute you and all in uniform who defend our rights. I actually have 31 yrs in for a major Defense Contractor., so I know how imporatnt your missions are to our freedom. Pretty evident from my response that I lean to the left, just wish the politicians worked together instead of acting like it's 2 seperate countries. BTW, flipped my flag over today...
