biker gang shootout
#21
08-13-2006, 10:52 PM
RE: biker gang shootout
ORIGINAL: BG Weasel
My position is that I've had encounters with both, and I've never had a 1%'er treat me with anything other than courtesy and respect. Can't say that for some cops I've met.
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
My position is that I've had encounters with both, and I've never had a 1%'er treat me with anything other than courtesy and respect. Can't say that for some cops I've met.
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
I will agree with you that stereotyping is not cool. So, with that in mind I understand where you are coming from.
Lynn
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08-13-2006, 10:56 PM
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RE: biker gang shootout
ORIGINAL: New2Harley
Sorry you're annnoyed.
No, actually I could give a crap if you're annoyed.
It stands for Law Enforcement Officer.
I am sure you knew that, but like the shooting victims, you just have to keep stirrin the pot.
ORIGINAL: atomic
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
No, actually I could give a crap if you're annoyed.
It stands for Law Enforcement Officer.
I am sure you knew that, but like the shooting victims, you just have to keep stirrin the pot.
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08-13-2006, 11:01 PM
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RE: biker gang shootout
I'm 'almost' a Sturgis local - Rapid City resident. ( new to the forum - so take it easy on me! )
For some reason this year there were rumors starting over 6 months ago about increased biker gang activity & attendance at this years rally.
The biggest talk in the weeks before the rally was that there was an incident involving some Hells Angels & a rival gang that happened about 4-6 weeks before Sturgis - supposedly the HA guys made it 'known' that they were going to get even during the Sturgis Rally.
** DISCLAIMER ** I have no fact whatsoever to base this one - here's my point - why would an average joe like me hear things like this?? I can only assume there is a reason for the increase in 'talk' regarding gang activity? I'm not sure what happened or why this was the case, this year more than in the past - but I was hearing more talk about gangs this year than ever? It's not like I'm 'connected' or even 'know someone who...'
For some reason this year there were rumors starting over 6 months ago about increased biker gang activity & attendance at this years rally.
The biggest talk in the weeks before the rally was that there was an incident involving some Hells Angels & a rival gang that happened about 4-6 weeks before Sturgis - supposedly the HA guys made it 'known' that they were going to get even during the Sturgis Rally.
** DISCLAIMER ** I have no fact whatsoever to base this one - here's my point - why would an average joe like me hear things like this?? I can only assume there is a reason for the increase in 'talk' regarding gang activity? I'm not sure what happened or why this was the case, this year more than in the past - but I was hearing more talk about gangs this year than ever? It's not like I'm 'connected' or even 'know someone who...'
#24
08-13-2006, 11:06 PM
RE: biker gang shootout
If you're a LEO, you just made the point of my earlier post beautifully.
ORIGINAL: New2Harley
Sorry you're annnoyed.
No, actually I could give a crap if you're annoyed.
It stands for Law Enforcement Officer.
I am sure you knew that, but like the shooting victims, you just have to keep stirrin the pot.
ORIGINAL: atomic
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
No, actually I could give a crap if you're annoyed.
It stands for Law Enforcement Officer.
I am sure you knew that, but like the shooting victims, you just have to keep stirrin the pot.
#25
08-13-2006, 11:15 PM
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RE: biker gang shootout
was there all week of the rally and saw Hell's Angels 3 different times,seemed to be all in the same area,only saw the Outlaws on the road,to and from Sturgis,but not in town,mostly I saw,Sons of Silence.Until the rights to the "Shoot Out At Sturgis" comes out in book form,or when it comes out on DVD we wont know what really happened and the reason behind it.I was never in fear of my life when I was around them,they were all very polite.give them respect,they give it back,the way I see it
#26
08-13-2006, 11:15 PM
RE: biker gang shootout
ORIGINAL: BG Weasel
If you're a LEO, you just made the point of my earlier post beautifully.
If you're a LEO, you just made the point of my earlier post beautifully.
Everybody has ran across the LEO/Cop/Pig, (choose your term of endearment), that is all wrapped up in himself. The guy that is large and in charge, and wants to make sure that you know it.
For ME, that Cop lives in Falls City, Ne. Nailed me in March for speeding. Did I deserve a ticket? Probably so. But, according to him, the only reason he wrote me was cuz I was a cop. And honestly, I would not have much bad to say about him (aside the professional lack of courtesy), but after writing me, he called my Lieutenant, to make sure my agency knew I was stopped.
And just to clarify my somewhat smart-assed response earlier. It's not a stupid acronym. It's an abbreviation!!
#27
08-13-2006, 11:25 PM
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RE: biker gang shootout
ORIGINAL: BG Weasel
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
As far as "Holier than thou", here's a thought. I have never been arrested for a violent crime, I have never been in jail, I have never shot people just because my "people" don't get along with their "people", or because my president told me to, and I have never been involved in an organization that demanded my loyalty even if it meant violating the law and other people's rights. I have also never stolen another man's ride or peddled Meth. If that makes me "Holier than thou", then I guess I am.
As far as the cop references, I was one for 20 years, and it always seemed to me that our worst was better than their best.
Regards,
Bill
#29
08-13-2006, 11:42 PM
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RE: biker gang shootout
ORIGINAL: atomic
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
When did the term LEO come around? It is annoying. Use police officer or cop. If you are embarrased as to what your job is than get a different one don't use a stupid acronymn that nobody knows what it means.
As far as it being used because the people using it are embarrassed about their chosen profession, that is a pretty ridiculous assumption. You must really be hard up for something to nit-pick.
Regards,
Bill
#30
08-14-2006, 12:28 AM
RE: biker gang shootout
I'm going to stop beating the horse because I think we agree. But I have a good friend who is an HA, and he has never been arrested, been in jail, etc etc either. And if you were a cop for 20 years I assume you worked for some sort of government organization, so I'd go easy on bragging on the squeaky clean ethics of my employer! 
If it's not fair to hold you responsible for the sins of your brothers in blue...maybe it's not fair to hold all the HA's responsible for the sins of some of their brothers in red & white. Let's apply the benchmark equally.
If it's not fair to hold you responsible for the sins of your brothers in blue...maybe it's not fair to hold all the HA's responsible for the sins of some of their brothers in red & white. Let's apply the benchmark equally.
ORIGINAL: billnourse
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably a duck. That's not stereotyping, that's calling a duck a duck. If it looks, and acts, and assaults like a dangerous gang member, then it is probably a dangerous gang member.
As far as "Holier than thou", here's a thought. I have never been arrested for a violent crime, I have never been in jail, I have never shot people just because my "people" don't get along with their "people", or because my president told me to, and I have never been involved in an organization that demanded my loyalty even if it meant violating the law and other people's rights. I have also never stolen another man's ride or peddled Meth. If that makes me "Holier than thou", then I guess I am.
As far as the cop references, I was one for 20 years, and it always seemed to me that our worst was better than their best.
Regards,
Bill
ORIGINAL: BG Weasel
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
But mainly, I wanted to point out that stereotypes aren't a good thing and I'm not big on the "holier than thou" attitude.
As far as "Holier than thou", here's a thought. I have never been arrested for a violent crime, I have never been in jail, I have never shot people just because my "people" don't get along with their "people", or because my president told me to, and I have never been involved in an organization that demanded my loyalty even if it meant violating the law and other people's rights. I have also never stolen another man's ride or peddled Meth. If that makes me "Holier than thou", then I guess I am.
As far as the cop references, I was one for 20 years, and it always seemed to me that our worst was better than their best.
Regards,
Bill