Oil filters
#1
Oil filters
I have some older Amsoil oil filters for my old Evo Low Rider. Can I use it on an TC 03 Ultra.
I've read that the older filter has larger micron openings and something about the anti drain back valve.
All I would like to know is will it hurt the TC motor to use the older less restrictive filter.
I would think going the other way might be a problem, being more restrictive.
Has this been covered before?
Thanks
I've read that the older filter has larger micron openings and something about the anti drain back valve.
All I would like to know is will it hurt the TC motor to use the older less restrictive filter.
I would think going the other way might be a problem, being more restrictive.
Has this been covered before?
Thanks
#2
Your TC is back speced to 5 micron rating. Which is less of a big deal than the ADBV. You should absolutely NOT use an oil filter without and ADBV on a TC engine because it can cause top end oil starvation wear. Looking in the filter if you do not see a black or orange or red rubber/silicon ADBV then do not use it.
As for the level of restriction...no issue going form the 10 micron on a 5 micron bike. Using a 5 micron on an EVO will also cause oil starvation.
As for the level of restriction...no issue going form the 10 micron on a 5 micron bike. Using a 5 micron on an EVO will also cause oil starvation.
#3
Thanks KBFXDLI, I guess you're the only expert here on filters. I was thinking the same thing, but didn't know if something larger then 5 microns would hurt some oil passages.
I will look for the rubber ADBV.
The filter has been sitting on my shelf for 10 years and I would like to use it if I can. I was hoping someone in my HOG chapter would buy it, but out of the more then 500 members, I don't think more then 6 or 7 actually change their own oil. And they all have TC's.
I will look for the rubber ADBV.
The filter has been sitting on my shelf for 10 years and I would like to use it if I can. I was hoping someone in my HOG chapter would buy it, but out of the more then 500 members, I don't think more then 6 or 7 actually change their own oil. And they all have TC's.
#4
I stole this:
WARNING: All filters are not created equal even though they fit. Differences in bypass spring pressure and filter media could result in damage to your engine.
While it is advised to use the proper HD filter for your engine for proper filtration, here is a cross reference if you can't get a genuine part.
Size ---------Long--------------------- Short ----------------Extra Long -----------TC88 (long)
H-D - -------63805-80T (black)------381-80 (black)--------63812-90 (black)---------63798-99
-------------63795-77T (chrome)----63782-80 (chrome)----63813-90 (chrome)------(chrome)
AC/Delco -------------------------------------------------------- PF53 --------------PF53----
CCI(prem)---25-542 (black)--------------------------------5-220 (black)-------------22-250
-------------25-250 (chrome)------------------------------25-221 (chrome
CCI(revtech)-35-078------------------35-077--------------35-079-------------------35-074
Fram---------PH6022 (black)----------PH3614--------------PH3600 ----------------PH6022 (blk)
-------------PH6065A (Chr)--------------------------------PH6068 (chr)-----------PH6065A (CH)
Hastings---------------------------------------------------LF157
-
Motorcraft-------------------------------------------------FL793
NAPA------------------------------------------------------1348
Perform-------HD-2--------------------HD-3----------------HD-4
Purolator---------------------------------------------------L10241
STP-----------SMO-22
Wix--------------------------------------------------------51288, 51348, 51785
K&N--------------------------------------------------------------------------------171B (Blk)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------171C (Chr)
WARNING: All filters are not created equal even though they fit. Differences in bypass spring pressure and filter media could result in damage to your engine.
While it is advised to use the proper HD filter for your engine for proper filtration, here is a cross reference if you can't get a genuine part.
Size ---------Long--------------------- Short ----------------Extra Long -----------TC88 (long)
H-D - -------63805-80T (black)------381-80 (black)--------63812-90 (black)---------63798-99
-------------63795-77T (chrome)----63782-80 (chrome)----63813-90 (chrome)------(chrome)
AC/Delco -------------------------------------------------------- PF53 --------------PF53----
CCI(prem)---25-542 (black)--------------------------------5-220 (black)-------------22-250
-------------25-250 (chrome)------------------------------25-221 (chrome
CCI(revtech)-35-078------------------35-077--------------35-079-------------------35-074
Fram---------PH6022 (black)----------PH3614--------------PH3600 ----------------PH6022 (blk)
-------------PH6065A (Chr)--------------------------------PH6068 (chr)-----------PH6065A (CH)
Hastings---------------------------------------------------LF157
-
Motorcraft-------------------------------------------------FL793
NAPA------------------------------------------------------1348
Perform-------HD-2--------------------HD-3----------------HD-4
Purolator---------------------------------------------------L10241
STP-----------SMO-22
Wix--------------------------------------------------------51288, 51348, 51785
K&N--------------------------------------------------------------------------------171B (Blk)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------171C (Chr)
#5
Sorry I have to disagree. Lower micron rating is to stop particles not liquid flow, so there shouldnt be any flow restriction. jmpo.
I would advise against using 10 yo filters too, the enviroment will have degraded the paper/rubber/sealant in the filter to where I wouldnt trust it to hold up to the heat and pressures.
I would advise against using 10 yo filters too, the enviroment will have degraded the paper/rubber/sealant in the filter to where I wouldnt trust it to hold up to the heat and pressures.
Last edited by bagman1; 04-22-2010 at 10:01 AM.
#6
About the ADBV....cross reference for the harley filter matches the Fram PH6022, which I have, but it does not have the ADVB. Why would it be cross-referenced if it would damage the engine by allowing drain back?
#7
Sorry I have to disagree. Lower micron rating is to stop particles not liquid flow, so there shouldnt be any flow restriction. jmpo.
I would advise against using 10 yo filters too, the enviroment will have degraded the paper/rubber/sealant in the filter to where I wouldnt trust it to hold up to the heat and pressures.
I would advise against using 10 yo filters too, the enviroment will have degraded the paper/rubber/sealant in the filter to where I wouldnt trust it to hold up to the heat and pressures.
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#8
Not sure about their chart...but with a horizontally mounted filter you need an ADBV or the engine can starve while the filter fills on cold start. I would use a different brand.
#9
Thanks for the info. I haven't used the filter, I just found it sitting in my pile of "collectibles" and was considering changing my oil tomorrow. I live about 100 miles from the nearest place I can buy a filter, so I guess I will just wait until I get to the town.
#10
Well I dont have my evo anymore, but after I built the motor I ran 5mc filters and never had a problem. Although there is a lot of info on this forum, theres both good and bad, but you have to take everything with a grain of salt. jmo