HD leveraged buyout?
#13
Not much action here for the last 10 days. No way to tell for sure if this will bear fruit or not because things like this get done in the dark of night, late and night and behind the scenes so as not to attrack any attention. Other than KKR, the other suitor is speculated to be Berkshire Hathaway. Remember Buffet and crew floated 150 million in bonds @ 15% a year ago, to keep the MOCO afloat. Somehow I don't think this is the kind of deal Buffet would go for. But KKR, that is a far different story. This is the kind of deal they feast on. Any deal would be better for the MOCO than what they have now. KKR would probably run the company for a couple of years and clean up the balance sheet and then let it go public again. Kaching, kaching! Given the fact that it has been so quiet since the 16th. actually gives a deal like this a little more creadence me thinks.
#14
I hope that Willie G or some other members of the family are involved, maybe even ****** it away from KKR.
I don't agree that Harleys, will still be as popular if they are manufactured overseas, I think that would be the end, here in the states. Harleys are great bikes but that American Legend, or American Iron or Born in the USA are the main drawing cards that Harley has. Myself, I can't even imagine a Harley built by TaTa Motors or Mahindra. I think that would trash the whole Harley Image
I don't agree that Harleys, will still be as popular if they are manufactured overseas, I think that would be the end, here in the states. Harleys are great bikes but that American Legend, or American Iron or Born in the USA are the main drawing cards that Harley has. Myself, I can't even imagine a Harley built by TaTa Motors or Mahindra. I think that would trash the whole Harley Image
#15
If HD gets bought by some Dubai firm...my next bike will be a Brass *****, Sucker Punch, Fly Rite, etc.
Nothing against the import bikes...I just like my country better than theirs.
#16
I hope that Willie G or some other members of the family are involved, maybe even ****** it away from KKR.
I don't agree that Harleys, will still be as popular if they are manufactured overseas, I think that would be the end, here in the states. Harleys are great bikes but that American Legend, or American Iron or Born in the USA are the main drawing cards that Harley has. Myself, I can't even imagine a Harley built by TaTa Motors or Mahindra. I think that would trash the whole Harley Image
I don't agree that Harleys, will still be as popular if they are manufactured overseas, I think that would be the end, here in the states. Harleys are great bikes but that American Legend, or American Iron or Born in the USA are the main drawing cards that Harley has. Myself, I can't even imagine a Harley built by TaTa Motors or Mahindra. I think that would trash the whole Harley Image
#17
Potential Buyer
Good Day All
KKR the supposed investment firm is a well run company. Typically, they only invest and are not raiders who strip a company and sell it. In most of their acquisitions, they let the company maintain its individuality, management and corporate "identity". I have been involved with two companies that KKR acquired. They grew, have better financials, better products as KKR puts money back in the business to increase their worth. It might not be a bad thing for us riders.
KKR the supposed investment firm is a well run company. Typically, they only invest and are not raiders who strip a company and sell it. In most of their acquisitions, they let the company maintain its individuality, management and corporate "identity". I have been involved with two companies that KKR acquired. They grew, have better financials, better products as KKR puts money back in the business to increase their worth. It might not be a bad thing for us riders.
#19
LBOs work when the assets of the target company are worth more than the cost of the buyout. I don't think Harley has sunk that low so far. However, if the stock sinks into the low single digits again, that could be a possibility. As far as someone acquiring the company with hopes of turning the business around, I don't think it's possible in this market. The demand for heavyweight motorcycles in down and still sinking, showing no signs of a comeback. It seems that the only course for H-D at the moment is to keep shrinking the company to fit the decreasing market and hope to survive until the economy improves. The announcment of H-D's Q1 2010 results next month will be an excellent indicator as to their future courses of action.
#20
LBOs work when the assets of the target company are worth more than the cost of the buyout. I don't think Harley has sunk that low so far. However, if the stock sinks into the low single digits again, that could be a possibility. As far as someone acquiring the company with hopes of turning the business around, I don't think it's possible in this market. The demand for heavyweight motorcycles in down and still sinking, showing no signs of a comeback. It seems that the only course for H-D at the moment is to keep shrinking the company to fit the decreasing market and hope to survive until the economy improves. The announcment of H-D's Q1 2010 results next month will be an excellent indicator as to their future courses of action.
and most all Ultra Limiteds gone. No 09s left either.