I did it all the time on my metrics, put on tousands of miles and never had a problem. My Harley is another story, I always use the clutch.

 

Just wondering what the hell the similarities are between a Big Rig and a Harley gear box? If your Harley has gears designed to pull a few tons worth of payload.....you must have a different transmission than what my bike came with.

Even a metric to Harley comparison is not apples to apples, but still a little more realistic than comparing a Harley gear box to a Semi's gear box. Metric bikes have gear to gear primary drive where Harley has a chain that is flopping around making for slight variances in input shaft speed...enough variance to make "matching gear speed" (when you back off the throttle the upper run of the primary chain goes slack) a little more difficult to make that "self syncronized" shift. Matching gear to road speed on a metric bike is very easy and their transmissions will fall effortlessly from one gear to the next. Again....can it be done, yes....was it designed for it....no. HD makes lot's of replacement parts...I'm sure they would be happy to sell you whatever you eventually destroy. Like BUCKETASS said, everything a Tech disassembles tells a story. There is a difference between normal wear and tear and abuse...an experienced Tech has no trouble seeing the difference on inspection.

Tech23

 

shifting with out the clutch weares out the edges of the gears, would get real expensive real fast

 

WTF would you choose to abuse a fine piece of equipment that way?

 

If I wanted a shift without a clutch I'd get an automatic. I've always enjoyed using the clutch, shifting the gears, playing with the throttle and such. I'd lose some of my pleasure if I had to skip one of the parts. Plus and old timer on a dirt bike asked me once how long I wanted my bike to last without dropping some bucks on the mechanics. Since then I've always thought the longer the better.

 

Motocross/Dirt bikes fine to shift without the clutch, did it a lot when racing, never had a problem, but a dirtbike used for motocross racing never lasts very many years anyhow, so the whole bike is wore out before the gears go. even then, most of my racing i shifted using the clutch, didnt take long to realize all i had to do was hold it wide open, give the clutch lever a tiny tug at each shift and it was smoother and faster than a full pull or no pull of the clucth.

There aint no way in the world i would shift my Harley without using the clutch, hell it already bangs each gear hard enough with a clutch, why would i multiply that banging of gears by 100% not using the clutch..but hey, if you dont mind fixing the tranny on your bike, go on ahead and ride it that way, it is yours after all

 

This is a Harley not a Peterbuilt

 

I think snooze control would be more like it.

 

Few words: Absolutely nuts not using clutch !.

Thorey

 

i only did it to my metrics when racing. and i still went through clutches. not sure id be willing to do it to my harley. it cost to much for me to buy ebay clutches all the time