It's your tranny. It's your money. Beat it like you want to.

 

I learned to shift without a clutch in 1963 with my Impala 409. During the first 6 months of ownership, I went through three transmissions, a pressure plate and an engine. Some how the clutch made it. GM did the motor and one transmission. After that they said goodbye. I didn't mind as I called it intertainment tax.

Then, I grew up and quit being as stupid.

 

Huh ?!?!?!? THAT'S what I was gonna aks !!!!!! You guys gots 2 ????

Some people STILL set 'em up that way. Can work effectively as an anti-theft device, also.
They keep trying to take off in 2nd. VERY Effective on a kick start !!!! Bwahahahahaha

As such, 'some times' when I am rolling thru a town, accelerating on the 'other side', I jus' ease off the throttle and push down steady on the shifter. You can 'sense' when it's matched, and it slides right into fourth, no prob. (I'm trying to finish my smoke, and it's gettin' "breezy" at 50+)

But the dogs take too much of a beating doing it A LOT.
Riding Dusty's "rocket", use it for starting and stopping, almost exclusively. Synchroed vs Constant mesh. BUT, JMFUO, as 'ooze-all'.

 

Constant mesh, but it's rotation speed varies with the vehicle speed.
You match the rpm's, she'll slide in like a warm knife in butter.
Once you find that "happy spot", she'll shift perfect for you every time.

Those that ain't been around big trucks, have no clue! He he! They teach this stuff in Truck driving school.
It's common, it's normal,..... yet "stupid" to the uneducated souls.
So funny to watch them throw insults, when the mirror will show them the dumb one.

Not sayin' I recommend it on the bike, especially for those that have no clue about rpm matching,..... but it indeed is a real life thing that many truck drivers benefit very well from. If you don't "get it", it's your loss, not theirs.

Closed minds suck. They learn squat.

 

Thank you. Finally, someone that knows something NOT based on hearsay.

 

I know what I'm talking about. I mentioned false neutrals as it can happen with or without the clutch. If it happens, your trans isn't toast. You slow down, clutch it and up shift. The last thing you want is to try and force it back into gear at highspeeds/RPM's. You know what causes most false neutrals? The rider not using enough force on the shifter. It happens.

All I've read is a bunch of stories and hearsay that really have no merit to clutchless shifting and usually the misfortune quoted is a one sided story where we don't know the real ending of it. Then a bunch that don't know squat, jump on the bandwagon quoting false facts. But hey, that happens everywhere with everything. FWIW, I clutch it on downshifts while blipping the throttle to match the rpm's to the shift. I'm not gonna even try to explain that one here... LOL

There always a right way to do something and a wrong way. Everyone has there own way, I'm go clutchless.

 

I'm good with that..

Cheers..

 

Another cause might be worn dogs on transmission gears....

The right way only minimizes the torque being transmitted through the gearset and the impact it has during the shift. Using the clutch eliminates any torque through the gearset during the shift, because the clutch when disengaged disconnects the engine from the transmission. The damage is not immediate but you are "chipping away" at the dogs. Again take a look at the heft of a semi transmission then look at your HD transmission...please feel free to point out the similarities. When you do...start with the clutch and work your way back.

Tech23

 

I've posted on this thread a couple of times, it'd be nice if the folks who talk the talk, could walk the walk. You know who you are. Talk crap and spit it out as gospel, what a joke!

 

I would use it. I dont think that the newer Harleys have straight cut gears.