Surging and backfiring under load when cold
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Surging and backfiring under load when cold
Hi All,
I have a 2004 Heritage with carby.
When i start the bike it runs fine and i let it warm up for about 2 minutes before riding. Once i take off the bike starts to surge and backfire repeatedly for about the first 1 to 2 kilometers but only under load. If i stop it seems to idle fine. After that it just comes good and stays good for the rest of the night. If i stop for a couple of hours and start the bike it is all fine.
It only seems to do it after the bike is started from cold. Oddly enough if i only let the bike warm up for 30 seconds or so then it rides ok at first and then the surging starts after about a minute of riding. I have also noticed that even when it is running ok it still does not have quite as much power as usual.
There are 2 relevant events around the time it started doing this.
Firstly, the bike was serviced about 200 kilometers prior to this starting during which the Vacuum hoses were replaced, otherwise a normal service.
Secondly, it started happening shortly after filling up with petrol.
My immediate thought was water in the petrol and i tried adding Methylated spirit to the petrol over 3 tanks and seemed to get an improvement but the issue was not totally gone. I also tried leaving the bike for a week and disconnecting the petrol hose and pumping out about a liter of petrol while set to reserve. This made no difference.
I have been riding it like this now for a couple of thousand kilometers and still have the same problem. Unfortunately i can't afford to get it looked at for the moment and although i have tools i'm not overly mechanical.
Can anyone help with some simple suggestions i can try that might assist.
Thanks in advance
Simon.
I have a 2004 Heritage with carby.
When i start the bike it runs fine and i let it warm up for about 2 minutes before riding. Once i take off the bike starts to surge and backfire repeatedly for about the first 1 to 2 kilometers but only under load. If i stop it seems to idle fine. After that it just comes good and stays good for the rest of the night. If i stop for a couple of hours and start the bike it is all fine.
It only seems to do it after the bike is started from cold. Oddly enough if i only let the bike warm up for 30 seconds or so then it rides ok at first and then the surging starts after about a minute of riding. I have also noticed that even when it is running ok it still does not have quite as much power as usual.
There are 2 relevant events around the time it started doing this.
Firstly, the bike was serviced about 200 kilometers prior to this starting during which the Vacuum hoses were replaced, otherwise a normal service.
Secondly, it started happening shortly after filling up with petrol.
My immediate thought was water in the petrol and i tried adding Methylated spirit to the petrol over 3 tanks and seemed to get an improvement but the issue was not totally gone. I also tried leaving the bike for a week and disconnecting the petrol hose and pumping out about a liter of petrol while set to reserve. This made no difference.
I have been riding it like this now for a couple of thousand kilometers and still have the same problem. Unfortunately i can't afford to get it looked at for the moment and although i have tools i'm not overly mechanical.
Can anyone help with some simple suggestions i can try that might assist.
Thanks in advance
Simon.
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There is an important vacuum line at the top of the carb for the V.O.E.S. If my brain meds are working right, check that. I would treat your fuel with Seafoam to scrub out your fuel system but I think your living across the pond judging from your use of the word "petrol" so you will not find any sea foam. you will have diesel fuel injector cleaner however & you can use that at around 3 ounces per gallon or 1 ounce per liter with good results.
Give your bike a lil choke if it runs rough & tell us if it runs better or worse when you try this!
Hatch.
Give your bike a lil choke if it runs rough & tell us if it runs better or worse when you try this!
Hatch.
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My carb'd Dyna used to do that when it had the CV carb on it. The only way to reduce it slightly that I could find was to not fully close off the choke until about 5 miles had been covered - just left it open a tiny bit.
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That's how I am first thing in the morning!!!!
My Sporty needs lots of warm up, then its ok.
My Sporty needs lots of warm up, then its ok.
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Your bike is running too lean. Check for vacuum leaks by spraying some wd-40 or carb cleaner around carb and base of carb while it's idling. If you hit a leak with the carb cleaner, the rpm's will change. Trash in the carb will also cause this. In colder weather, the bike will require a richer fuel mixture. Maybe your bike just needs to be re-jetted.