How do you feel about paying 10% extra for gas?
#11
I ride a Harley. I guess I see so much aggression because you don't think I have HD. I do. 2000 Ultra fuel injection. And I am an old fart unfortunately. I am kind of new biker, got license and my first bike in 07.
Last edited by newbiker; 01-22-2010 at 11:50 PM.
#14
Air Fuel Ratio,,, lean hotter, richer cooler. The AFR comes out of the exhaust pipes NCS so if you want a hot adult toy, there you go!!!
#15
But you're still getting better gas mileage than most of the tree huggers.
#17
New biker- old fart,
Where did you get your information?
FI bikes are set up to run stoichiometric AFR from the factory courtesy the EPA, and that isn't an AFR of 13.2, rather a 14.7 ratio. And to produce maximum power there are two ratios for gasoline: Gasoline max power rich is 12.5, and max power lean is about 13.2. An air cooled engine will run cooler and, all other things equal, will last longer at the rich end. So if you're at 13.2 then you are in the max power lean area. If you lean it further you will lose power. One consequence of having less power is that the rider will tend to compensate by using more throttle to achieve the desired results. Guess what - that means he burns more fuel for the same result, which might be seen as wasting gas, eh?
As far as the Porsche design team - Why not avail yourself of their expertise, rather than re-invent the wheel?
Finally, HD IS air-cooled. The looks, the sound, the timeless and classic appeal is what they sell. If you don't like that why not keep it to yourself, rather than tossing out an opinion reeking of that which stains your skivvies? If you don't understand that appeal then a polite question would get good results. Instead, we have another nose-in-the-air-water-cooled-is-the-**** thread.
Where did you get your information?
FI bikes are set up to run stoichiometric AFR from the factory courtesy the EPA, and that isn't an AFR of 13.2, rather a 14.7 ratio. And to produce maximum power there are two ratios for gasoline: Gasoline max power rich is 12.5, and max power lean is about 13.2. An air cooled engine will run cooler and, all other things equal, will last longer at the rich end. So if you're at 13.2 then you are in the max power lean area. If you lean it further you will lose power. One consequence of having less power is that the rider will tend to compensate by using more throttle to achieve the desired results. Guess what - that means he burns more fuel for the same result, which might be seen as wasting gas, eh?
As far as the Porsche design team - Why not avail yourself of their expertise, rather than re-invent the wheel?
Finally, HD IS air-cooled. The looks, the sound, the timeless and classic appeal is what they sell. If you don't like that why not keep it to yourself, rather than tossing out an opinion reeking of that which stains your skivvies? If you don't understand that appeal then a polite question would get good results. Instead, we have another nose-in-the-air-water-cooled-is-the-**** thread.
#18
I'm not paying extra for gas, I pay the same as anybody else that day.
If I want 10% of mine to go out the exhaust, that's my business.
It's like a pack of cigarettes. People always ask if you have an "extra". Nope, they only put 20 in this one, too.
If I want 10% of mine to go out the exhaust, that's my business.
It's like a pack of cigarettes. People always ask if you have an "extra". Nope, they only put 20 in this one, too.
#20
One of the many benefits of doing stg1 , it also will help cool her down a little.