HD Selling Touring Plant
#61
04-21-2011 | 06:57 AM
Seasoned HDF Member
Hey now ....wait a minute, we still need to feed all them sumbitches that don't wanna work and stay home to have 6 babies....and get a free cell phone and rent assistance because they're too F86king sorry to get off their asses to go work to afford a HD....LOL...
#62
04-21-2011 | 07:10 AM
Stellar HDF Member
Don't confuse the bottom line oriented mentality of a Corporation with the drive and emotional attachment to the product a family company will bring to the table.
The family that brought Harley Davidson through a depression and several recessions is not in charge anymore. This is a different type of recession, Wall Street wiped out most discretionary spending for recreation products.
Harley will be down over 100,000 units in sales for 09. Some quarters showed 92% loss in profits. A corporate CEO is not that emotionally connected to the product and will cut his losses and run if the opportunity presents itself.
You are confusing emotions with business, selling an Iconic recreation product to a middle class that for the most part has been wiped out. A so called jobless recovery is not conducive to selling big ticket items.
Harley is not totally out of the woods yet! If there ever was a time for innovation, new product line and new markets it is now. You add to the mix EPA is killling the product line. The catalytic converter's they are hanging on an air cooled engine with the AFR lean and EPA CAM's smothering to death. From 2010 on the complaints about the heat and the underpowered bikes will get into market share if Harley does not come up with some other way to meet the last round of stringent EPA emissions standards.
The family that brought Harley Davidson through a depression and several recessions is not in charge anymore. This is a different type of recession, Wall Street wiped out most discretionary spending for recreation products.
Harley will be down over 100,000 units in sales for 09. Some quarters showed 92% loss in profits. A corporate CEO is not that emotionally connected to the product and will cut his losses and run if the opportunity presents itself.
You are confusing emotions with business, selling an Iconic recreation product to a middle class that for the most part has been wiped out. A so called jobless recovery is not conducive to selling big ticket items.
Harley is not totally out of the woods yet! If there ever was a time for innovation, new product line and new markets it is now. You add to the mix EPA is killling the product line. The catalytic converter's they are hanging on an air cooled engine with the AFR lean and EPA CAM's smothering to death. From 2010 on the complaints about the heat and the underpowered bikes will get into market share if Harley does not come up with some other way to meet the last round of stringent EPA emissions standards.
Also the way the above text is worded is just plain wrong. You cannot "loose profits" nor can you find profits. You can loose profitability. You may have less profit or more profit, but the only way to loose profit is for the cleaning people to accidentally throw it away and not tell any one....
#63
04-21-2011 | 07:20 AM
From what I've read here, certain types of riders have been whining about their legs burning for many years, not just 09-10. I've never figured out what it's about.
#65
04-22-2011 | 12:17 AM
I don't see how a radiator, hoses, water pump & drive, and coolant can make a bike any lighter.
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