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Old 12-12-2009, 06:40 AM
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Originally Posted by EG Ultra Classic
Seems like a lot of production units to recall resulting in quite a bit of expense for the motor company. It must be serious. Perhaps they havn't stated the real problem possibly being tank mounting bracket fatigued failure resulting in fuel leaks onto the hot motor below during normal operations.
Well, H*LL, why didn't you post up, that you've ridden panheads and shovelheads ???? Bwahahahaha
Harleys have been losin' WHOLE gas tanks, for decades, with 'broken' mounting tabs.

TMK, the 'worst' were the early FXs.
Have only owned Black Betty 2 years, and even with new tanks and sheetmetal, the right side front mount tab, broke right at the weld. Rode over 50 miles to get home, holding the tank on with my right knee, and then my elbow (WHILE holding troddle), to give my knee a rest.

WELL, of course, I had JUST filled it, what did you think, my luck had changed, or sumtin ???

I personally know of ONLY ONE Harley, that burnt up, because of 'tank' probs. Gas lines, YES, carbs, YES, STUPIDITY, YES.

This sorta falls under that, "Did you put on clean underwear, in case you're in an accident?" category. LEAST o' my worries, right 'bout then, Mom !!!!! Undoubtedly will have MORE skid marks, than the ones in me chorts !!!!
 

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Old 12-12-2009, 07:03 AM
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I've watched guys weld broken tabs on tanks while they still has gas in them.
That was from a distance, of course
 
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Old 12-12-2009, 09:48 AM
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I would probably have ignored the recall. It is not the first recall I have ignored and wouldn't be the last. Like stated in an earlier post. I have seen and heard of tanks coming loose from fatigue vibration breaking off the tabs. This is nothing new.
Originally Posted by Roosterboots
In 2009, Harley-Davidson touring models were redesigned with a new chassis that was intended to improve comfort, maneuverability, and heat management. Seven Touring models were affected. The design combined a new frame, swingarm, exhaust and engine mounting.

On 5/28/09, Harley-Davidson noted the presence of sheet metal tears in the fuel tank tunnel adjacent to a weld attaching the front fuel tank mounts to the tank itself. The damage was observed after a 30 mph, 90-degree impact test with a 2010 FLHTK.

The following month, Harley-Davidson analyzed three similar vehicles that had been barrier crash tested. The crash reports on these three samples did not indicate any fuel leakage, but the damage to the tanks was similar to that observed on the 5/28/09 test. According to Harley-Davidson, “The failure mode observed was a buckling of the front mounting brackets in a direction that is trying to tear the bracket away from the fuel tank tunnel in the area of the weld.”

Harley-Davidson engineers continued to investigate, developing models and bench tests that showed frame distortion resulting from a collision as the causative factor. Through early November, the company studied the correlation between the 90-degree barrier test and real world performance. They found no instances of fire, injury, or fatalities resulting from such a collision.

On November 19, 2009, Harley-Davidson’s executive management determined that a safety related defect existed on this class of motorcycle and declared a recall to remedy the issue.

It could not have been an easy decision. A third-quarter drop of 84% in profits and the recent demise of the Buell motorcycle line point to a company that needs more than ever to track every nickel and dime. Did Harley have to do this?

The limited parameters involved in the crash and the poor expectations of survivability for the rider have called into question Harley-Davidson’s decision. Was it really a safety issue, or were there political considerations at play?

According to a study by the University of Southern California in 2006, the average (median) speed of a motorcycle crash at impact is 21.5 mph, while the median pre-crash speed is 29.8 mph. So a 30 mph frontal collision is a realistic condition. A rider sitting atop a motorcycle that abruptly stops at this speed will continue on the original path of travel at about the same speed as his motorcycle had attained prior to the crash.

If that rider encounters an immovable barrier (such as a car) and decelerates instantaneously, the effect will probably NOT be survivable.

But anyone who has ever watched a motocross event will tell you that a 30 mph crash is decidedly survivable. If the driver hits the ground at 30 mph (not a tree or another car), he will roll and slide to a stop. With a helmet, his odds of living through the crash are quite high. The odds of walking away, however, are very low. Add to this scenario a leaking fuel tank and a source of heat and sparks, and it’s easy to see the ingredients for a tragedy.

Consider also the crash where the rider lays his bike down and slides to a stop. It's easy to imagine a situation where the bike slides ahead of the rider's body and impacts a tree or a boulder, opening the gas tank. The injured rider then slides into his own flaming wreckage. Except for the flames, an otherwise survivable situation.

Harley-Davidson executives did not have such a difficult decision to make, after all.
 

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Old 12-12-2009, 10:03 AM
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The newer the bikes are the more problems arise.....
 
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:52 AM
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Bah! Just fit a big spring under the tank and a set of impact triggered explosive bolts and just eject it during impact !!! Also adds a touch of excitement to the situation and fear to the cage driver once this option is generally known.
 
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:10 PM
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Ignoring the recall is up to the owner. Ignoring the results of federally mandated tests might result in a class action suit (a la Ford Pinto) that Harley could not survive.
 
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Old 12-12-2009, 12:47 PM
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I will be getting mine fixed. No one plans on crashing and it is safety issue so why not get it done?
 
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Mine was on the list too - 2010 Ultra C.
 
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