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Old 11-06-2009, 10:08 PM
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never a problem,the older bikes didn't have that good of brakes so you better downshift,some bobbers and choppers don't even use front brakes so you have to downshift,just keep your rpm's right.
 
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I down shift everything. If your trading it yearly why would you give a crap anyway. Learn how to handle a manual transmission
 
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09 softail manual say downshift at50 ,40 30 20 and10 on page 84. This should answer all questions
 
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Originally Posted by High Gear
One thing that wasn't mentioned is that the primary shoe catches hell as the lower chain

tries to form a straight line under hard decel.
Good fodder for a tensioner thread. People are always wondering why some tensionrs last a long time, while others don't make 25k miles.
 
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:13 AM
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i unload the engine whenever possible. just dont see a need to engine-break. i can't think of a single bit of harm it does to pull in the clutch when coming to a stop. sometimes i kill the engine and coast into a stop light to give the engine some no-run time.. mainly in hot weather. i'll probably go to hell for these actions.
 
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Certainteed
i unload the engine whenever possible. just dont see a need to engine-break. i can't think of a single bit of harm it does to pull in the clutch when coming to a stop. sometimes i kill the engine and coast into a stop light to give the engine some no-run time.. mainly in hot weather. i'll probably go to hell for these actions.
get an automatic transmission.
 
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Old 11-07-2009, 02:50 AM
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I would imagine there is more load on the gears when up shifting when accelerating hard, besides in the UK you are taught to use the engine as a brake in both cars and bikes, its a normal way of driving and riding as far as us Europeans are concerned, anything that can help stop you is a good thing right ??
 
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by BigGdawg
Good point. I remember those old drum brakes and also when they were mechanical not hydraulic. Guys who never experienced that feeling of no real stopping power don't know how good they got it.
Heck when I started running big stroker motors and disc brakes first appeared on Harleys,they were not much to write home about.I remember when having to make panic stops,almost bending the levers trying to stop,they were horrible.
 
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Originally Posted by dogtownmax
get an automatic transmission.
get a reasonably logical response
 
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Originally Posted by scoobysteve
I would imagine there is more load on the gears when up shifting when accelerating hard, besides in the UK you are taught to use the engine as a brake in both cars and bikes, its a normal way of driving and riding as far as us Europeans are concerned, anything that can help stop you is a good thing right ??
Other side of the tooth gets the load. Trans's are tuff. They can take it.
The newer HD cranks are crap. While I still engine brake a little, I go real easy on it. When in doubt if the r's will be too high, I'll keep the clutch lever in.

Semi's are big heavy machines. They need engine brake to stop.
Stick shift cars ain't real common anymore, but they too can benefit.
Lil 700lb bike with good disk brakes don't need tons of help to stop.
 


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