49 state verses 50 state
#1
49 state verses 50 state
Doe's anybody know the difference between a 49 state Harley and a 50 state or one to be registered in Calif? Can a 09 ultra be made into a 50 state bike without much trouble? Thanks Art
#2
Well yeah. Any bike can be made into a 50-stater. It's just kinda tough hittin' Hawaii though with the Pacific in the way and stuff.
#3
Since I have a Califonia model, I know that the ECM programm is not the same. Maybe that is the only difference, since California has tight EPA rules. They can't be too far from Federal ones these days, it might depend on the year of the engine. EPA 07 started the strict standards. I think there was another standard set for 2010 also.
I got my bike to run fatter and a lot cooler and better with XiEDs tied into my oxygen sensors. I noticed the difference and you can see it by the inside of my pipes are now black soot. The fuel mileage didn't drop that bad either surprisingly.
I got my bike to run fatter and a lot cooler and better with XiEDs tied into my oxygen sensors. I noticed the difference and you can see it by the inside of my pipes are now black soot. The fuel mileage didn't drop that bad either surprisingly.
#5
The Cali bikes have a fume recovery system on the fuel tank just like your car. The fuel caps are air tight and the tank vents through the canister, also the carb/throttle body and engine vent system.
Yes you can down grade your bike to meet the standards, just get a parts catalog and manual and add the components. Some things will have to be moved around.
Yes you can down grade your bike to meet the standards, just get a parts catalog and manual and add the components. Some things will have to be moved around.
#7
I read some where
if you live in ca and want to buy a out of state bike it has to 5 years old or have 7500 miles on it before DMV will reg. it in ca
if you live in ca and want to buy a out of state bike it has to 5 years old or have 7500 miles on it before DMV will reg. it in ca
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#9
From the Kali DMV website
What You Need to Know Before Buying a Vehicle from Out-of-State
The Bottom Line
If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws in order to be registered here.
Aren't All Vehicles California Certified?
Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold to California residents or businesses. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-State) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. 50-State or California certified vehicles are made to be sold to California residents.
What Is Considered a New Vehicle?
California law considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer when acquired by a California resident or business to be a new vehicle. This holds true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state. If you acquire a new vehicle from another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over 7,500 miles to circumvent the law. DMV cannot accept an application to register the vehicle, and you cannot register or operate the vehicle in California.
Exceptions
As usual, there are a few exceptions included in the law. As a California resident or business you may be able to register a 49-State vehicle if you:
Obtained it as part of a divorce or inheritance settlement.
Purchased it to replace a vehicle stolen while you were using it out of state.
Purchased it to replace a vehicle which was destroyed or made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using it out of state.
Were on active military duty outside California, and you registered the vehicle in the state of your last military service.
Check the Label
To find out whether a car or truck is California Certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle check the headset or frame. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.
What You Need to Know Before Buying a Vehicle from Out-of-State
The Bottom Line
If you are a California resident and acquire a new car, truck or motorcycle from another state, it must be certified to meet California smog laws in order to be registered here.
Aren't All Vehicles California Certified?
Not all new vehicles are manufactured to be sold to California residents or businesses. Many manufacturers make vehicles to be sold in the other 49 states. These vehicles (49-State) are made with smog equipment that meets federal emission standards, but not California standards. 50-State or California certified vehicles are made to be sold to California residents.
What Is Considered a New Vehicle?
California law considers any vehicle with less than 7,500 miles on the odometer when acquired by a California resident or business to be a new vehicle. This holds true whether or not the vehicle has been registered in another state. If you acquire a new vehicle from another state, you may not subsequently drive it to accumulate over 7,500 miles to circumvent the law. DMV cannot accept an application to register the vehicle, and you cannot register or operate the vehicle in California.
Exceptions
As usual, there are a few exceptions included in the law. As a California resident or business you may be able to register a 49-State vehicle if you:
Obtained it as part of a divorce or inheritance settlement.
Purchased it to replace a vehicle stolen while you were using it out of state.
Purchased it to replace a vehicle which was destroyed or made inoperative beyond reasonable repair while you were using it out of state.
Were on active military duty outside California, and you registered the vehicle in the state of your last military service.
Check the Label
To find out whether a car or truck is California Certified, check the emission label under the hood. For a motorcycle check the headset or frame. The label should read that the vehicle conforms to California regulations, or that it is legal for sale in California.
#10
I'm trying to do the same thing right now in California and I want to know if anyone has ever checked the box that the reads "not the actual mileage" and just said the the odometer has turned over once. That would save me a lot of pain if that works.
Does anyone know why the mileage is 7500? Did some law maker just throw an arbitrary number out there?
Does anyone know why the mileage is 7500? Did some law maker just throw an arbitrary number out there?