Helmet after hitting deer
#111
I was told By county police, state police, EMT, doctor and nurses. I think they know little about what had happen.
#112
ok guys settle down, the point is, this kids helmet saved him from further injury, and its a reminder how using a helmet adds a layer of protection.
its not the be all end all to accidents and surviving them,
lord knows we've all seen our share. Ive seen pursuits, 5 mph accidents, riding the white line, hitting those aluminum guardrails, ive seen 2 guys literally lose their heads. ive seen a tractor trailer literally chow down on a rice rocket leaving the rider and the bike in fragments.
None of it was fun, and everyone of those sights haunt me.
we all make our choices, just ride smart, ride safe, and for gods sakes, get home to hump your woman.
its not the be all end all to accidents and surviving them,
lord knows we've all seen our share. Ive seen pursuits, 5 mph accidents, riding the white line, hitting those aluminum guardrails, ive seen 2 guys literally lose their heads. ive seen a tractor trailer literally chow down on a rice rocket leaving the rider and the bike in fragments.
None of it was fun, and everyone of those sights haunt me.
we all make our choices, just ride smart, ride safe, and for gods sakes, get home to hump your woman.
#114
One rider survived a crash while wearing an open faced helmet. He didn't "need" a FF, because he had a windshield. He slid down the road on his face, long enough to grind off his nose and lower jaw. He was in the hospital for a very long time.
When teaching the MSF course, I kept a disk grinder in the podium. In each of my classes, I asked for volunteers to come up and hold their face against the spinning grinder disk - even for a second. I never got any takers.
What's the old saying? If you can't dazzle them with your brilliance then try to baffle them with bullchit....
And if that doesn't work, fear and intimidation.........
Ain't noting like scaring the chit out of a bunch of newb's.
Why is it we can accept the fact that you're scared and want to dress as a saturday morning cartoon power ranger but the same putz's call us ignorant and stupid for our choices?
#116
I am not sure how the police, EMT's, nurses or doctors would figure that out without seeing the accident and doing force calculations, it just could be they are a lot smarter than me.
#117
The American Motorcyclist Association (AMA), as part of a comprehensive motorcycle safety program to help reduce injuries and fatalities in the event of a motorcycle crash, strongly encourages the use of personal protective equipment, including gloves, sturdy footwear and a properly fitted motorcycle helmet certified by its manufacturer to meet the DOT standard.
The AMA believes that adults should have the right to voluntarily decide when to wear a helmet. The AMA does not oppose laws requiring helmets for minor motorcycle operators and passengers, believing that many young motorcyclists and/or their passengers may lack the maturity to make an informed decision regarding the use of motorcycle helmets.
The AMA asserts that helmet use alone is insufficient to ensure a motorcyclist's safety. There is a broad range of other measures that can be implemented to improve the skill of motorcycle operators, as well as reduce the frequency of situations where other vehicle operators are the cause of crashes that involve motorcycles.
The AMA opposes provisions conditioning adult helmet use choice on economic criteria such as, but not limited to, additional medical insurance coverage. Such rationale is based on the negative and incorrect view that motorcyclists present a “social burden.” The AMA maintains that acceptance of such requirements is contrary to the long-term interests of motorcycling.
Helmet Use and Helmet Laws
The AMA notes there is a clear distinction between the voluntary use of helmets and mandatory helmet use laws. Some view the helmet solely as a mechanical safety device, similar to a seat belt. Many motorcyclists view the helmet as an accessory of personal apparel, and its use or non-use is connected with a chosen lifestyle and their right as adults to make their own decisions.
Mandatory helmet laws do nothing to prevent crashes. Regardless of the protective equipment worn, any motorcyclist involved in a crash is at considerable risk. This makes it all the more vital to avoid a motorcycle crash in the first place, a strategy widely recognized and pursued in the motorcycling community.
The AMA is a strong advocate of voluntary motorcycle rider education, improved licensing and testing, and increased public awareness. All are measures that can reduce the likelihood of crashes and improve overall safety.
The AMA holds that a common principle should be applied when consideration is given to mandating personal safety, whether it be for motorcycling or some other risk-related activity: Adults are capable of making personal safety decisions for themselves. Society's role is not to mandate personal safety, but rather to provide the education and experience necessary to aid adults in making these decisions for themselves.
Responses to Claims Made by Helmet Law Advocates
Claim: Injured motorcyclists are uninsured and disproportionately rely upon the public to pay for their injuries.
Response: Motorcyclists are just as likely to be privately insured as any other road user.
A Harborview Medical Center study published in 1988 reported that injured motorcyclists in the trauma center relied on public funds a lower percentage of the time than did automobile drivers to pay their hospital bills during the same time period.
A 1992 study by the University of North Carolina's Highway Safety Research Center reported that automobile drivers and motorcyclists have their medical costs covered by insurance at a nearly identical rate.
The AMA believes that adults should have the right to voluntarily decide when to wear a helmet. The AMA does not oppose laws requiring helmets for minor motorcycle operators and passengers, believing that many young motorcyclists and/or their passengers may lack the maturity to make an informed decision regarding the use of motorcycle helmets.
The AMA asserts that helmet use alone is insufficient to ensure a motorcyclist's safety. There is a broad range of other measures that can be implemented to improve the skill of motorcycle operators, as well as reduce the frequency of situations where other vehicle operators are the cause of crashes that involve motorcycles.
The AMA opposes provisions conditioning adult helmet use choice on economic criteria such as, but not limited to, additional medical insurance coverage. Such rationale is based on the negative and incorrect view that motorcyclists present a “social burden.” The AMA maintains that acceptance of such requirements is contrary to the long-term interests of motorcycling.
Helmet Use and Helmet Laws
The AMA notes there is a clear distinction between the voluntary use of helmets and mandatory helmet use laws. Some view the helmet solely as a mechanical safety device, similar to a seat belt. Many motorcyclists view the helmet as an accessory of personal apparel, and its use or non-use is connected with a chosen lifestyle and their right as adults to make their own decisions.
Mandatory helmet laws do nothing to prevent crashes. Regardless of the protective equipment worn, any motorcyclist involved in a crash is at considerable risk. This makes it all the more vital to avoid a motorcycle crash in the first place, a strategy widely recognized and pursued in the motorcycling community.
The AMA is a strong advocate of voluntary motorcycle rider education, improved licensing and testing, and increased public awareness. All are measures that can reduce the likelihood of crashes and improve overall safety.
The AMA holds that a common principle should be applied when consideration is given to mandating personal safety, whether it be for motorcycling or some other risk-related activity: Adults are capable of making personal safety decisions for themselves. Society's role is not to mandate personal safety, but rather to provide the education and experience necessary to aid adults in making these decisions for themselves.
Responses to Claims Made by Helmet Law Advocates
Claim: Injured motorcyclists are uninsured and disproportionately rely upon the public to pay for their injuries.
Response: Motorcyclists are just as likely to be privately insured as any other road user.
A Harborview Medical Center study published in 1988 reported that injured motorcyclists in the trauma center relied on public funds a lower percentage of the time than did automobile drivers to pay their hospital bills during the same time period.
A 1992 study by the University of North Carolina's Highway Safety Research Center reported that automobile drivers and motorcyclists have their medical costs covered by insurance at a nearly identical rate.
#120
WOW, this has really been different.
Not sure right now if I would ever post a pic like this again.
I just found that most of the conversation has really moved into a completely different direction then as it started of, see these pics.
Well, I know that I apoligized before that I wasn't telling anyone to wear their helmet.
Maybe we should just open hunting season all year long, still bugs me I can only shoot deer 3 weeks out of the year.
Not sure right now if I would ever post a pic like this again.
I just found that most of the conversation has really moved into a completely different direction then as it started of, see these pics.
Well, I know that I apoligized before that I wasn't telling anyone to wear their helmet.
Maybe we should just open hunting season all year long, still bugs me I can only shoot deer 3 weeks out of the year.