Helmet after hitting deer
#91
The reason for my posts is to support 'freedom of choice'. Of course this freedom depends on people making their decisions not using misinformation. Things like 'an accident while wearing a helmet WILL result in a broken neck', 'a helmet affects hearing and peripheral vision enough to be dangerous', etc..
I never tell anybody to wear, or not wear a helmet. Just be sure and give the proper weight to the 'pros or cons' of any decision you make. And keep in mind that whatever reason anybody has for riding a motorcycle, i.e. freedom, sticking it to the man, saving money on gas, etc. only has any meaning during the time they are actually riding their motrorcycle.
Death, or a head injury, are full time and permanent.
I guess the posts from people that claim "I am a new, or first time harley, rider. My Harley is GREAT. It is the best thing since sliced bread." are more important? Don't we 'helmet lovers' deserve the same respect? Or does the truth about possible bad affects of a head injury scare the 'helmet haters'? It shouldn't because while the affects are pretty bad, they are not something to dwell on. At least not after you have enough experience to be confident in your riding ability. So when there is a post about wearing a helmet, you have already made your decision. You might as well move on, there is nothing for you to see here.
Ron
Last edited by rjg883c; 07-08-2009 at 11:13 PM.
#92
Posting reasons why they wear one? You mean like
- "If you wear a helmet, you will break your neck."
- "If you wear a helmet, you have no peripheral vision"
- "If you wear a helmet, you can't hear anything"
- "If you wear a helmet, your head gets way too hot"
... are those the type reasons you see "helmet lovers" posting?
On a similar note, I some times wonder why some people who choose to not wear a helmet feel the need to repeat tire, worn out myths, to support their decision, rather than simply saying "I don't wear a helmet because I don't want to." Perhaps you see the "helmet lovers" dispelling these myths and mistake it for something other than providing facts for new riders, or, uneducated older riders.
#93
If you haven't tried riding with a FF helmet, how can you call BS?
I haven't checked where you are located, but out here in the desert the "full wind in face" is like standing in front of a blast furnace. With the face shield closed there is no HOT "full wind in face". There is only a cool breeze over the top, and down the back, of your head.
The most obvious benefit of the air channels in said helmets is really noticeable after taking off from a stop, at a traffic signal for example. Your head is hot and sweaty, and that happens regardless of helmet or not out here in the desert, but there is instantly that cooling breeze.
Of course the shield must be opened during the stop and closed while moving. But it is hot here in anything but a cage with a good AC. Finally, don't get upset and take anything personally. Some of us are just sharing our experiences and expect everybody to be mature enough to accept or disregard as they choose. It is not an attempt to influence anybody's choices.
Ron
I haven't checked where you are located, but out here in the desert the "full wind in face" is like standing in front of a blast furnace. With the face shield closed there is no HOT "full wind in face". There is only a cool breeze over the top, and down the back, of your head.
The most obvious benefit of the air channels in said helmets is really noticeable after taking off from a stop, at a traffic signal for example. Your head is hot and sweaty, and that happens regardless of helmet or not out here in the desert, but there is instantly that cooling breeze.
Of course the shield must be opened during the stop and closed while moving. But it is hot here in anything but a cage with a good AC. Finally, don't get upset and take anything personally. Some of us are just sharing our experiences and expect everybody to be mature enough to accept or disregard as they choose. It is not an attempt to influence anybody's choices.
Ron
The vents help on FF but not that much. When the sun is beating down and I am lucky to be riding outside of my Communist minded state, I wear my baseball cap backwards.
That being the case, I am forced by the government (Who thinks that the American people need more regulations to keep us sheple in line then to ever give a **** about personal liberty and freedoms) to wear a friken helmet.
I used to wear a FF when I raced streetbikes on the Autobahn in Germany. 153mph+. The FF is a necessity at those speeds due to wind resistance. But those days are long gone and I do not feel the need to wear a giant basketball on my head anymore.
#94
To answer your question, It is because the some of us are getting sick and tired of being told we are stupid and we need our government to step in a force us to wear helmets like the good minded and compliant helmet wearers. I pray they never get to the point of outlawing Motorcycles, but then you will see why we fight for our freedoms.
Has anyone ever wondered why Bell helmet is one of the biggest supporters and financiers of mandatory helmet laws???
Hmmmm.
Also DOT does not create safety standards for helmets.
I hated to post this link again, but some people need to reread this.
http://www.easyrider.com/fact_sheet.htm
#96
He doesn't have pics of the bike. I am not even sure what type of bike his brother rides. It was a street bike, Ion rides a crotch rocket style bike. I didn't really think it made that much difference of a motorcycle versus deer situation as to what type of motorcycle was involved in the accident. I will see if he has pics of the bike.
The point was that the helmet sustained a large amount of damage, his brother on the other hand did not have any real damage to his upper body.
The point was that the helmet sustained a large amount of damage, his brother on the other hand did not have any real damage to his upper body.
#97
Maybe it's not the "look" people are after and are thinking about comfort. Sorry, but I can't see wearing a FF helmet around in the summer. Way too hot! I own one and wear it during the winter and in the rain.
It's all about having a choice and not some nitwit politicians deciding for us.
It's all about having a choice and not some nitwit politicians deciding for us.
Matt
#98
If you have your jaw ground off on the pavement everytime you go out to ride, maybe you need more training instead of a helmet.
#99
I had crash back in the 70's with out a helmet and would of die if I was wearing a helmet at that time. I have to wear a helmet in my state now. The next time there the same type of crash will I live. Do to state law you must wear a helmet in this state. They are not looking into the whole helmet protection thing as safety as to use side and back bracing on your helmet. You are told the helmet is for your protection and what about everything else on your body? A T-Shirt wearing helmet rider is safer. There is something wrong with that picture.
#100
I pray they never get to the point of outlawing Motorcycles, but then you will see why we fight for our freedoms.
I know facts go much farther than myths in supporting those fights. Some anti-helmet or anti-helmet law people do more harm than good, and some times make themselves appear stupid, when they use ridiculous myths or other claims in their efforts to support anti-helmet laws.
Some of those people also make themselves appear foolish by calling people who choose to wear helmets "Helmet Lovers", while ignoring the reality that many "helmet lovers" are very strong supporters of the fight to eliminate helmet laws.
It's not about freedom from wearing a helmet - it's about having the freedom to make the CHOICE to wear a helmet or not.
Has anyone ever wondered why Bell helmet is one of the biggest supporters and financiers of mandatory helmet laws???
On the other hand, I do know the insurance industry has a huge, powerful, lobbying arm in DC. Whereas a company like bell has an extremely limited financial ability to support much of a lobbying effort, the insurance industry can easily spend millions of dollars on lobbyists and other support.
I don't know if anyone has ever wondered why the insurance industry spends millions of dollars in DC, but, if they have, they just aren't thinking about this **** as it would seem, to me at least, to be very obvious why they would spend so much in support of seat belt laws, helmet laws and other regulation which benefits their industry.
Also DOT does not create safety standards for helmets.