Burn it in everything(10% blend). Never had problem one with it. It has a higher octane rating than regular. For the comment about the subsidy ethanol rec'vs, have you ever figured out how much regular fuel is subsidized?

 

How about pouring a gallon or two over yourself and lighting up. I'd be wiliing to subsidize that.

 

ethanol is tough on auto fuel pumps. esp. G.M.pumps . I will put ethanol in my bike if nothing else is available, but will go out of my way to find 91 or 92 non ethanol. I'm all for supporting our farmers, but fuel alcohol from corn is just not a good idea. esp when EPA is considering going to 15%

 

I remember back in 1980 when riding my Low Rider, there were only a handful of stations where I could get premium "leaded" gasoline. It ran like crap on unleaded.

Now, here we go again.

 

Where are you living? Gasoline is subsidized in Iran, Mexico, and I think maybe Venezuela.

Here in the states, there is a 51 cents/gallon of ethanol subsidy when it is used to reach a blend of at least 10% ethanol in the fuel.

Oh, if you want to be liberal in you outlook, consider the effects on world hunger. You can't eat peroleum, but you can sure eat corn. Using the grain for fuel has increased the cost of food for everyone -- even meat and poultry, because we used to feed grain and soybeans to cows and chickens instead of turning it into alcohol and burning it for fuel.

 

better or worse?

 

Funny thing out here on the west coast WA,OR,CA,western MO,ID and NV all recieve fuel from alaska not over sea's The U. S. Geological Service issued a report in April
> > ('08) that only scientists and oil men knew was coming,
> > but man was it big. It was a revised report (hadn't
> > been updated since '95) on how much oil was in this area
> > of the western 2/3 of North Dakota ; western South Dakota;
> > and extreme eastern Montana ..... check THIS out:
> >
> >
> > The Bakken is the largest domestic oil discovery since
> > Alaska 's Prudhoe Bay, and has the potential to
> > eliminate all American dependence on foreign oil. The Energy
> > Information Administration (EIA) estimates it at 503 billion
> > barrels.. Even if just 10% of the oil is recoverable... at
> > $107 a barrel, we're looking at a resource base worth
> > more than $5.3 trillion.
> >
> >
> > 'When I first briefed legislators on this, you could
> > practically see their jaws hit the floor. They had no
> > idea.' says Terry Johnson, the Montana Legislature's
> > financial analyst.
> >
> >
> > 'This sizable find is now the highest-producing onshore
> > oil field found in the past 56 years.' reports, The
> > Pittsburgh Post Gazette. It's a formation known as the
> > Williston Basin, but is more commonly referred to as the
> > 'Bakken.' And it stretches from Northern Montana,
> > through North Dakota and into Canada. For years, U. S. oil
> > exploration has been considered a dead end. Even the
> > 'Big Oil' companies gave up searching for major oil
> > wells decades ago. However, a recent technological
> > breakthrough has opened up the Bakken's massive
> > reserves.... and we now have access of up to 500 billion
> > barrels. And because this is light, sweet oil, those
> > billions of barrels will cost Americans just $16 PER BARREL!
> >
> >
> > That's enough crude to fully fuel the American economy
> > for 41 years straight.
> >
> >
> > 2. And if THAT didn't throw you on the floor, then this
> > next one should - because it's from TWO YEARS AGO!
> >
> >
> > U. S. Oil Discovery- Largest Reserve in the World!
> > Stansberry Report Online - 4/20/2006
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hidden 1,000 feet beneath the surface of the Rocky
> > Mountains lies the largest untapped oil reserve in the
> > world. It is more than 2 TRILLION barrels. On August 8,
> > 2005 President Bush mandated its extraction. In three and a
> > half years of high oil prices none has been extracted. With
> > this motherload of oil why are we still fighting over
> > off-shore drilling?
> >
> >
> > They reported this stunning news: We have more oil inside
> > our borders, than all the other proven reserves on earth.
> > Here are the official estimates:
> >
> >
> > - 8-times as much oil as Saudi Arabia
> > - 18-times as much oil as Iraq
> > - 21-times as much oil as Kuwait
> > - 22-times as much oil as Iran
> > - 500-times as much oil as Yemen
> > - and it's all right here in the Western United States
> > .
> >
> >
> > HOW can this BE? HOW can we NOT BE extracting this?
> > Because the environmentalists and others have blocked all
> > efforts to help America become independent of foreign oil!
> > Again, we are letting a small group of people dictate our
> > lives and our economy....WHY?
> >
> >
> > James Bartis, lead researcher with the study says we've
> > got more oil in this very compact area than the entire
> > Middle East -more than 2 TRILLION barrels untapped.
> > That's more than all the proven oil reserves of crude
> > oil in the world today, reports The Denver Post.
> >
> >
> > Don't think 'OPEC' will drop its price - even
> > with this find? Think again! It's all about the
> > competitive marketplace, - it has to. Think OPEC just might
> > be funding the environmentalists?
> > Got your attention/ire up yet? Hope so! Now, while
> > you're thinking about it .... and hopefully P.O'd,
> > do this:
> >
> >
> > 3. Pass this along. If you don't take a little time
> > to do this, then you should stifle yourself the next time
> > you want to complain about gas prices .. because by doing
> > NOTHING, you've forfeited your right to complain.
> > --------
> > Now I just wonder what would happen in this country if
> > every one of you sent this to every one in your address
> > book.
> > By the way...this is all true. Check it out at the link
> > below!!!
> > GOOGLE it or follow this link. It will blow your mind.
> > http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=1911
> >

 

Quote:
"Where are you living? Gasoline is subsidized in Iran, Mexico, and I think maybe Venezuela."

What do you think the US Military has been doing in the Mid East for the past 8 years? Cost? Figure out that big oil military subsidy per barrel of oil. We've spent plent of blood, and treasure trying to keep those oil taps open so Big Oil can keep on with their gargantuan profits.
When the US Marines send an armed squad out to protect my corn fields from the taliban, then we can compare gov't subsidies.

And, do you have any idea of what goes on in an ethanol plant converting a bushel of yellow corn to ethanol? How about the byproducts? What they are used for? Livestock feed value?

Groceries havn't dropped any all winter and spring, where as raw corn prices have fallen in half. So who is making the profit here? How much of that price increase you talk about is directly due to raw grain prices? How much raw wheat is in a loaf of bread? How about corn in a box of cornflakes? But look at the cost increases to haul those groceries when diesel shot up. That's where the price rise came from. Ethanol was simply something they could point their finger at while they gouged the consumer.

You should do some research before you form an opinion on something you don't know **** about. ~~~~
Like I said, the 10% blend burns fine in my Ultra. I burn it in my Busa, car, pick-up, lawn mower you name it. Been burning it since it came out years back. I figure each dollar I pay for Ethanol is a dollar that never leaves this country and ends up in the pocket of a guy wanting to kill me.

 

No problems so far

 

EG your rhetoric might be masked in pro America patriotism but it is clear you are a flaming liberal. Your wonderful ethanol has already f'ed up my expensive car and it will do it to a whole shitload of other automobiles. I hope it doesn't happen to you or your tune will change rather quickly.