General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is my memory that bad?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 06-08-2009, 02:50 PM
IronAss's Avatar
IronAss
IronAss is offline
Seasoned HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 22,994
Received 12,256 Likes on 4,783 Posts
Default Is my memory that bad?

Or does this guy just not know what he's talking about?

I'm sittin here killing time in a truckstop and decided to call one of the local "Harley" shops back home and ask them to get me a ballpark price on converting my belt drive to chain. I guess I should really just do it myself but my time at home is precious to me and I'd rather be riding than doing anything more than standard Maintenance.

Anyway....I get the service dept and tell the guy what I'm looking to do and ask if he can work up a price for me. I figure I can drop it off when I get by the house next time and when I get back home in the fall I can just go pick it up and ride it as opposed to using my precious home time to work on it.

First thing out of the guys mouth is "Why do you want to do that"? I answered "because I want a chain drive". He then proceeded to tell me that I'd be having to change the chain every 8,000 to 10,000 miles.

I said "Has chain quality gone down that much over the last few years"? He's like...UH I don't know...

I seem to remember a good O-Ring chain running for Damn near as long as a belt as long as you take care of it.

Am I wrong?
 
  #2  
Old 06-08-2009, 03:04 PM
roqueweiler's Avatar
roqueweiler
roqueweiler is offline
Advanced
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: British Columbia
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Hey Ironass,

As a general rule, I really respect your epinions here on the forum. This one has got me scratching my head though.

Chains are messy, greasy and don't wear nearly as hard or as long as a nylon belt. Granted, in an emergency they are easier to change over but given even the most cursory of maintenance, a belt just isn't going to break down. I've got 50K kms on mine and I estimate at least that much more. I can't imagine a chain doing anywhere close to that and also needing much, much care, attention and maintenance.

I read that Harley does have an emergency belt kit - anyone here used one? How does it work?
 
  #3  
Old 06-08-2009, 03:11 PM
cadman311's Avatar
cadman311
cadman311 is offline
Club Member
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: DUNDALK,MARYLAND
Posts: 4,892
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

My belts on for 70k I never think it's going to wear out.
 
  #4  
Old 06-08-2009, 03:13 PM
IronAss's Avatar
IronAss
IronAss is offline
Seasoned HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 22,994
Received 12,256 Likes on 4,783 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by roqueweiler
Hey Ironass,

As a general rule, I really respect your epinions here on the forum. This one has got me scratching my head though.

Chains are messy, greasy and don't wear nearly as hard or as long as a nylon belt. Granted, in an emergency they are easier to change over but given even the most cursory of maintenance, a belt just isn't going to break down. I've got 50K kms on mine and I estimate at least that much more. I can't imagine a chain doing anywhere close to that and also needing much, much care, attention and maintenance.

I read that Harley does have an emergency belt kit - anyone here used one? How does it work?
I fully understand where you are coming from. My question however was not about the attributes of either a belt or a chain. My question was whether or not my memory of how long an O Ring chain will last is incorrect.

The bike I had prior to the one I have now was an 84 Evo Softail with a chain drive. It hasn't been that long ago and I seem to remember getting 50,000 miles plus out of an O Ring chain. Yet this guy is telling me 8,000 to 10,000 miles?
 
  #5  
Old 06-08-2009, 03:30 PM
Unome's Avatar
Unome
Unome is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Ellenwood, GA - The Ghetto Part
Posts: 8,423
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by IronAss
I fully understand where you are coming from. My question however was not about the attributes of either a belt or a chain. My question was whether or not my memory of how long an O Ring chain will last is incorrect.

The bike I had prior to the one I have now was an 84 Evo Softail with a chain drive. It hasn't been that long ago and I seem to remember getting 50,000 miles plus out of an O Ring chain. Yet this guy is telling me 8,000 to 10,000 miles?
The guy is an idiot.

I'm no expert on the chain/belt differences/longevity but can't imagine that being the case, though.
 
  #6  
Old 06-08-2009, 04:45 PM
2Sore's Avatar
2Sore
2Sore is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 810
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Todays chains will last 30-50 k depending on how many burn outs you do and how you maintain them.
 
  #7  
Old 06-08-2009, 05:57 PM
Splatter's Avatar
Splatter
Splatter is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Posts: 967
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by roqueweiler
Hey Ironass,

As a general rule, I really respect your epinions here on the forum. This one has got me scratching my head though.
It doesn't really matter why he wants a chain, though does it? All that matters is he wanted it and asked for a quote to get it done. The answer should have been the quote he asked for or a polite "Sorry, we don't do that kind of work." It should not have been a debate.
 
  #8  
Old 06-08-2009, 05:59 PM
Sick1200's Avatar
Sick1200
Sick1200 is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Saint George, Utah
Posts: 1,387
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

+1 on the 30-50k based on maintenance and care. I think the chains look sick and would like to get one myself, a Harley is a maintenance machine anyway, might as well make it look more raw!!!
 
  #9  
Old 06-08-2009, 06:14 PM
IronAss's Avatar
IronAss
IronAss is offline
Seasoned HDF Member

Thread Starter
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 22,994
Received 12,256 Likes on 4,783 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Sick1200
+1 on the 30-50k based on maintenance and care. I think the chains look sick and would like to get one myself, a Harley is a maintenance machine anyway, might as well make it look more raw!!!
That's kind of where I'm coming from. Every since I bought the one I have now new....I've been wanting to make it look like it's 60 years old. I've got a guy working on Fabricating a old style rocker clutch pedal so I can put a suicide jockey shift set up on it. I don't want the ones they make today with the cable running off of what looks like a toe shifter. I want it to look as much as it can like the original style. V-Twin has one they make for shovel's and pan's but can't find anything for the new bikes.
 
  #10  
Old 06-08-2009, 06:19 PM
krwould's Avatar
krwould
krwould is offline
Club Member

Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: On a hill among the hills, PA
Posts: 112,202
Received 1,313 Likes on 1,028 Posts
Default

Runnin an X-ring chain on my rigid.. friend of min has 20,000+ miles on one! I can't run a belt because of clearances so will see how long the 113" takes to wear it out!!
 


Quick Reply: Is my memory that bad?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:31 PM.