Thank You Motor Officers!!!!!
#52
04-30-2009, 01:16 PM
How many time has a person charged with a domestic violence offense gotten out of jail and gone back to do more harm?
Several, you say?
And out of those, how many times were you sued for not keeping him in jail and protecting the victim?
None, you say? Hmmm.
Look, we do agree that any officer worth his salt is going to do his level best to protect someone. That's a given.
But there is just no mandate forcing the issue. If there were, your department would have to hire an officer to stand in front of every house to protect those people while they're asleep. And if they didn't, and something happened to those people, the department would be held criminal and civilly liable. The police can not be every place at the same time, nor can they protect all the people all the time. THAT is why there is no such mandate, and, that's why our forefathers came up with things like the 2nd Ammendment and the "right to self defense".
And stop looking at my underwear!
#53
04-30-2009, 01:17 PM
a lot of states have now changed their seatbelt laws to primary violations due to stricter regs from the Fed. As for the cell phone, I don't know, but damn, the way they're swerving in and out of their lane while they talk on the phone, put on their make-up, take notes on their conversation, drink their coffee and eat their doughnut all at the same time should be violation enough to pull em over and ticket them.
It's a primary violation here too. But it took about 5 years for them to upgrade it from a secondary violation.
#54
04-30-2009, 01:47 PM
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Not moto cops but cage cops, they pull that same move here in Rochester
#56
04-30-2009, 02:48 PM
I dont make the laws I just do my best to enforce them 
I agree that we cant always be every where all the time but there are circumstances where we have to take protective action and if we dont we pay the price civily. All though I dont know any officers personally that have been sued for failure to protect I know of a couple officers in my department that served lengthy suspensions for failure to make an arrest under our current domestic laws that require it.
How many time has a person charged with a domestic violence offense gotten out of jail and gone back to do more harm?
Several, you say?
And out of those, how many times were you sued for not keeping him in jail and protecting the victim?
None, you say? Hmmm.
Look, we do agree that any officer worth his salt is going to do his level best to protect someone. That's a given.
But there is just no mandate forcing the issue. If there were, your department would have to hire an officer to stand in front of every house to protect those people while they're asleep. And if they didn't, and something happened to those people, the department would be held criminal and civilly liable. The police can not be every place at the same time, nor can they protect all the people all the time. THAT is why there is no such mandate, and, that's why our forefathers came up with things like the 2nd Ammendment and the "right to self defense".
And stop looking at my underwear!
Several, you say?
And out of those, how many times were you sued for not keeping him in jail and protecting the victim?
None, you say? Hmmm.
Look, we do agree that any officer worth his salt is going to do his level best to protect someone. That's a given.
But there is just no mandate forcing the issue. If there were, your department would have to hire an officer to stand in front of every house to protect those people while they're asleep. And if they didn't, and something happened to those people, the department would be held criminal and civilly liable. The police can not be every place at the same time, nor can they protect all the people all the time. THAT is why there is no such mandate, and, that's why our forefathers came up with things like the 2nd Ammendment and the "right to self defense".
And stop looking at my underwear!
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04-30-2009, 03:18 PM
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I dont make the laws I just do my best to enforce them
I agree that we cant always be every where all the time but there are circumstances where we have to take protective action and if we dont we pay the price civily. All though I dont know any officers personally that have been sued for failure to protect I know of a couple officers in my department that served lengthy suspensions for failure to make an arrest under our current domestic laws that require it.
I agree that we cant always be every where all the time but there are circumstances where we have to take protective action and if we dont we pay the price civily. All though I dont know any officers personally that have been sued for failure to protect I know of a couple officers in my department that served lengthy suspensions for failure to make an arrest under our current domestic laws that require it.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/po.../28scotus.html
Ok, now come back at me with how I'm wrong
