Ummm...just how did I prove what point?

 

Why should cops or firefighters get a discount? They chose the job and knew the risks, just like any other job. Lets see a "discount" for "choker setters" or anyone that "chases" behind a cat. Much more dangerous work than being a cop or firefighter.

 

I agree with you that Liberty does not equal democracy, they are two different things. (Democracy implies democratic rule, rules are in place to, in effect, limit freedoms. You are not free to drive as fast as you'd like, you are not free to murder the idiot next door, etc... Liberty without Democracy would be a dangerous thing!)

But I get what he's saying as far as why some people don't like cops...we tend to take their fun away!

And, as I've said many times in the past, I do NOT believe that the membership of this forum, which can be very anti-police at times, is a fair picture of society as a whole. For the most part, I believe that the good folks in society are appreciative of police.

 

Respectfully why would you think you deserve a discount. Don't get me wrong I respect the law. But just because you have chosen a career path in law enforcement does not entitle you to a better deal than anyone else.

Do Doctors, Uniformed Service personel, MacDonalds cooks, UPS drivers get discounts? They are all just as important to our society as you. What makes you that much more important that the average American citizen? Some if you LEO really have gaul.

This is a major problem in my opinion with the us vs. you mentality.

 

There are cops that I don't like, either.

 

I am not a police officer but I am a civilian employee of a law enforcement agency who works very close with street level patrol officers and would like to offer an observance. Through the years I have known some officers who should never have been allowed into law enforcement but I have also noticed that these officers do not last long at agencies who are run by a top notch administration. I have seen officers who are the nicest people you would ever want to meet and remain so, even doing the job they do. I have also seen officers whom the job has changed and frankly I commend those that it does not seem to have an outward effect on. I say outward because I do not believe one can do that job without it having some effect on you as a person. The goal would be to minimize the effects on him and his family. I worked and retired after 25 years in the fire service and loved every minute of it. Never once in 25 years did I ever get up in the morning and not want to go to my job. I know now I don't think I could say that had I been a police officer instead of a firefighter. I commend and am thankful for the people who choose to do both of these jobs.

 

I agree with this. LE in this country is supposed to be a civillian force. We don't use military phonetics. We should remain separate from the military. I do see a line drawn more and more often between "military/LE and civilian", as opposed to "military and LE/civilian".

 

Do you propose a nation without laws and without people to protect those than cannot protect themselves?

 

I have never requested nor accepted a discount, nor do I feel entitled to one because of my career choice, and when they're offered I refuse. I will tell you however that some of the people I work with feel like they are due a discount here or there and I have no problem telling them that they are wrong.

 

I'm gonna apologize in advance for making a negative comment on my first post, but I've gotta chime in here.

What you've said above is complete bullchit.

There can be no freedom without justice, and without laws and law enforcement, there can be no justice.

Think about it....or "ask Hamilton, Jefferson, and some of those guys."