General Harley Davidson Chat Forum to discuss general Harley Davidson issues, topics, and experiences.
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Suicide/Jockie shift

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #11  
Old 04-26-2006, 01:37 PM
hotrod351's Avatar
hotrod351
hotrod351 is offline
Road Warrior
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Arizona
Posts: 1,569
Likes: 0
Received 12 Likes on 10 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

it does look really mocho. last year, on the laughlin run, a young guy shot by me, chirpping the tires in 2nd and 3rd gear with a jocky shift, he works at a local bike shop. really blew me away. next time i saw him, in his shop, his leg was in a cast, that didnt look so cool. guess its like the guys that drive cars with automatic trans and see a guy with a 4 speed shifting. i remember when i was young, long time ago, i used to pretend to have a stick shift, well then i got a truck with a stick shift and have been driving them for over 20 years, then i got a truck with a automatic, love it, sit back and relax. still that guy look cool when he shot by me shifting with his arm down behind his leg and the bike jumping every time he let out the clutch. it wouldnt be bad if the clutch was set up the the original clutch, where you push it it will stay, in other words if you press the clutch in with your foot and took your foot off it it would stay there, depressed. but then if the old bikes came with foot shift then every one would want to convert there shifters to foot shift. kinda like the setup vennie did on occ, clutch on the shifter lever. as for making a ride exciting, well if i make it there and back alive that enough excitement for me. grow a beard, let your hair grow and turn grey and get the black leathers that will work.
 
  #12  
Old 04-26-2006, 09:04 PM
pococj's Avatar
pococj
pococj is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Texas! Ya mean there's someplace else?
Posts: 11,065
Received 1,296 Likes on 483 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

I've ridden either a rocker clutch or suicide clutch and hand shift since 1981. After a few miles it comes naturally. The only drawback is with a suicide you really need to have things under control at a stop. If you are off balance it is easy to stall, or worse, lurch into traffic. Passengers must be educated, and severely punished for leaning to the left at a stop!

If you go the jockey shift route, keep the weight of the lever to a minimum. Too many of the store-bought kits have levers that are too heavy or unbalanced. Probably cause more wear on the bushings in the tranny top.
 
  #13  
Old 04-27-2006, 02:04 AM
mikeisglidn's Avatar
mikeisglidn
mikeisglidn is offline
Ultimate HDF Member
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: jacksonville, nc
Posts: 7,954
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

i love the way they look.................but not no but falk no!!
 
  #14  
Old 04-27-2006, 04:53 AM
toddzilla's Avatar
toddzilla
toddzilla is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location:
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

hey all! new to the forum... very cool stuff. joined cause i just got my 1st HD project bike... had others but never done ground up myself.. it's a 67 ironhead- right shift, left brake... but has disks and new forks.... anyway i was just dream'n about the clutch / shifter options... im kinda bent on keeping right shift / left brake.. so was considering a jockey, left handed crossover with a hand "grenade" clutch... yeah... high on the cool scale low on the living to ride again scale! i would dig some ideas on finding a cool factor that's safe enough (it's just gonna be a bar hopper, short D bike)

hotrod351 mentioned a clutch that would stay engaged after you left your foot off????... what that??? i was also searching and came across pocoj's left hand throttle right hand strieght up jockey shift..... now thats an idea....not to be a kiss A** but that guy apears to know this Sh**. or he's a really good BS'er.

anyway, great place to be and can't wait to learn from you folks.

ride safe

tr
 
  #15  
Old 04-27-2006, 11:05 AM
claydbal's Avatar
claydbal
claydbal is offline
Cruiser
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location:
Posts: 242
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

the cluth that stayed down was a rocker. if you wanna make that sporty cool, restore it!!
 
  #16  
Old 04-27-2006, 12:12 PM
74_ironhead's Avatar
74_ironhead
74_ironhead is offline
Elite HDF Member
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Canton, SD
Posts: 4,433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

ORIGINAL: toddzilla

hey all! new to the forum... very cool stuff. joined cause i just got my 1st HD project bike... had others but never done ground up myself.. it's a 67 ironhead- right shift, left brake... but has disks and new forks.... anyway i was just dream'n about the clutch / shifter options... im kinda bent on keeping right shift / left brake.. so was considering a jockey, left handed crossover with a hand "grenade" clutch... yeah... high on the cool scale low on the living to ride again scale! i would dig some ideas on finding a cool factor that's safe enough (it's just gonna be a bar hopper, short D bike)

hotrod351 mentioned a clutch that would stay engaged after you left your foot off????... what that??? i was also searching and came across pocoj's left hand throttle right hand strieght up jockey shift..... now thats an idea....not to be a kiss A** but that guy apears to know this Sh**. or he's a really good BS'er.

anyway, great place to be and can't wait to learn from you folks.

ride safe

tr
gotta love those ironheads the shifter isn't hard to get used to but after 8,000 miles everyone elses shifter is that's my '74 in the sig.
 
  #17  
Old 04-27-2006, 02:24 PM
stevent's Avatar
stevent
stevent is offline
Road Master
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Near Tacoma
Posts: 758
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

I had a hand banger on my shovelhead chopper, once you got used to it it worked pretty good. I never worried about anyone stealing it and you just need to remember to put it in neutral at every stop. As long as you have a good front brake they're not that hard to ride.
 
  #18  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:08 PM
redscout's Avatar
redscout
redscout is offline
Road Captain
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location:
Posts: 569
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift

The first bike I ever bought myself (in 1967) was a foot clutch/hand shift model. It was super cool back then, but I don't miss it. It's easy enough to die out there without adding unnecessary impediments to basic control....

You sure learn how to find neutral in a hurry though.....
 
  #19  
Old 04-27-2006, 03:54 PM
toddzilla's Avatar
toddzilla
toddzilla is offline
5th Gear
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location:
Posts: 9
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift


ORIGINAL: claydbal

the cluth that stayed down was a rocker. if you wanna make that sporty cool, restore it!!

rocker.. that makes sence... i'd love to respore it.. but the rod that had it before me chopped the frame... This was a 90% complete, albeit slightly frankinstiened, find at a good price.. i wanna make somethin unique.. custom maybe with a drag-bike feel.

thanks for the input, all... anyone with tech. advise please PM me.

tdr
 
  #20  
Old 04-28-2006, 12:36 AM
pococj's Avatar
pococj
pococj is offline
Seasoned HDF Member
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Texas! Ya mean there's someplace else?
Posts: 11,065
Received 1,296 Likes on 483 Posts
Default RE: Suicide/Jockie shift


ORIGINAL: toddzilla

hey all! new to the forum... very cool stuff. joined cause i just got my 1st HD project bike... had others but never done ground up myself.. it's a 67 ironhead- right shift, left brake... but has disks and new forks.... anyway i was just dream'n about the clutch / shifter options... im kinda bent on keeping right shift / left brake.. so was considering a jockey, left handed crossover with a hand "grenade" clutch... yeah... high on the cool scale low on the living to ride again scale! i would dig some ideas on finding a cool factor that's safe enough (it's just gonna be a bar hopper, short D bike)

hotrod351 mentioned a clutch that would stay engaged after you left your foot off????... what that??? i was also searching and came across pocoj's left hand throttle right hand strieght up jockey shift..... now thats an idea....not to be a kiss A** but that guy apears to know this Sh**. or he's a really good BS'er.

anyway, great place to be and can't wait to learn from you folks.

ride safe

tr
I might be BSing you, but since you have disc brakes you can use the old brake crossover tube on your frame to get a hand shifter from the right side to the left.
 


Quick Reply: Suicide/Jockie shift



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:16 PM.