Were it my son, I'd teach him to kick kneecaps in.


As for the scar : the girls will love that once it heals up.

 

Well, I'm assuming that legal charges were filed, so whoever goes to jail, goes to jail. Also, don't forget about Civil charges. Sue that family into the stone age. Any competent personal injury attorney can make it happen.

Beyond that, get the school involved, definitely get a restraining order so you have legal recourse if they even attempt retaliation.

You can also voluntarily move your son to another school or petition to get them expelled from the one he goes to now.

 

Make their parants pay the hospital bill. If that don't help you may have to get your buddies together and finish it.

 

Had a friend with a similar situation. He did the following:

1. Pressed charges-got a protection order
2. Hired an attorney who notified and threatened the local school district with a $10MM lawsuit to remove the offenders (both were expelled)
3. The attorney notified the Chief of Police and Law Director of the situation and the towns liability in protecting the boy.
4. The attorney filed a $10MM lawsuit against the kids & parents.


Results: The Chief of Police in the town sent his 2 most senior detectives to have a chat with the boys one at a time. The chat took place at a closed down trucking warehouse. Both offenders agreed to leave the boy alone.

Father of the offenders took a job out of town and moved the kids away.

Lawsuit against the offender parents is pending. The attorney wants to get a judgement against the kids & parents so they do not return to the state or be faced with financial ruin.

The interesting thing was that in my friends case it was 2 on 1 as well. Brothers too. Must be real scumbag parents if the kids are doing this kind of chit.

 

It sounds like these 2 little thug boys have got the neighborhood afraid of them. THEY should be afraid of retaliation ...not your son or you. They need a little fear put in them instead of the whole neighborhood running scared. It sounds that these 2 boys have terrorized the neighborhood before. Why don't you all get together and put an end to this crap?

 

By doing NOTHING< your allowing the BOYS to continue, GOOD advice, shown so far, by others. Get the police involved, Teacher, school, lawyer, all, but ya can't allow bullys to continue, Keep discussing your feelings, YOU'll find the right answer for yourself, GOOD LUCK.

 

Prayers to your kid's recovery.
It's easy for any of us to say "take care of it ourselves", "take them out", etc.....Unfortunately, the justice system no longer looks at it that way any more. There are legal reprucussions for any vengeful actions, even if they are morally justified, they will not be legally justified. Press charges, and get a restraining order, a lawsuit against the parents will only apply to the minor kid, and if he wasn't the one with the pipe, it will have less affect.. If they go after you or your son again, then it becomes a self defensive action but only at that moment, and depending on your state laws, what force is allowable. It can be easy to say "I hope they do, then I can take care of it, but making that choice to take a life, is never easy, nor will it be easy after it's done, even if completely justified.

 

As an attorney, this is good advice. I think you have civil causes of action against the attackers as well as the parents of the kid who had the party.

Also, many schools consider outside events attended by a certain number of students to be a school function. I personally think this is absurd, but you may be able to use this to your advantage. If the school, under its rules, can consider the party to be school event, they will easily be able to expel the punks.

 

a "school event" with adult beverages,,,,,,,,,,I don't think so

 

just a little more information and some answers to questions:

- my son is 19 and went to the party and was drinking.
- my son has graduated from the high school where the otriz's go now, but my son is going to college
- we told the police that we will press charges
- the police have multiple statements from others at the party about what happened.
- they are still taking statements, hard to get all facts when you talk to teenagers who were drinking and/or drunk. but so far it appears statements are pretty consistant
- there is some history with these kids. my son dated a girl who had a girl friend who dated a guy who was friends with the ortiz's. daughter dated guy (arturo) whose sister dated guy (art) whose cousins are the otiz's. arturo rarely says anything bad about anybody. but he did say that these ortiz brothers are bad and they are trouble. regardless, this would not be the first time my son have seen them.
- the story about what exactly happened is really kinda fuzzy. are people not sure or are they just not saying. seems my son tried to stand up for some girl they were hassling and the older ortiz didn't like that and came at him with a captain morgan bottle. my son had grabbed the pipe. then the events become unclear. some other boy got involved and got between ortiz and my son, and then next thing my son remembers is some of the girls trying to stop the bleeding from his head wound and the paramedics coming. the cops are saying to us that my son having the pipe initially is not a problem cause the story from others is pretty consistent that the ortiz's came at my son and he was just trying to protect himself.
- no arrests have been made yet. the cops have said multiple times that hey know these kids are problems. i am thinking that the police want to put these kids away and are using this incident to do it. but they are proceeding cautiously and trying to assure that they are following all rules and procedures so that the ortiz's can't get off on some technicality. supposedly there is a detective that is really good and he will be taking over this case.
- i have already mentioned to them the concern about retaliation. but these kids don't care that its against the law, and i am not sure if they are connected to any gangs. for those of you familiar with the chicago area, these kids use to live in cicero and recently moved to lagrange park. although lagrange park is a good community, there is an area that makes public housing look like luxury.
- i am not sure if the ortiz's are legal or not, but i am tempted to say yes cause i have heard that they are from puerto rico.
- i have talked to a lawyer about suing the family, but from what he said, the family can only be sued for 2k max.
- i am getting all the medical records and turning them over so the case can show the damage and the things that happened and also how close things came to being worse.

happy valentine day - huh