Cornering question (almost went down)
#42
10-08-2008 | 09:16 AM
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I've had front tire washout more times than I can count. It's that gentle little reminder that you've hit the limitations of the bike and road conditions.
Jersey, when and if it happens again, just roll off the throttle slightly and keep your line through the turn. It'll shift a little more weight to the front and increase traction. Once she hooks back up, roll back into it and smile.
Please, keep your feet on the pegs
#43
10-08-2008 | 09:44 AM
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Yeah sounds like he was a little hot into the curve and the bike was drifting out probably, foot down worked in this case o-k, but not a good thing to do like said you could have broke it or yanked yourself on down or off the bike,, for sure slow down a bit.
#45
10-08-2008 | 11:52 AM
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Bull****.
total bull****. And the ZX-14 is a sport-touring or rocket-touring bike, not a sportsbike - any decent 600cc will beat you handily in the twisties, although you'll pull in the straights.
Ride it right and a hog can do plenty fine in the corners, and is most definitely not for just going to the bars. You just don't know how to ride one.
total bull****. And the ZX-14 is a sport-touring or rocket-touring bike, not a sportsbike - any decent 600cc will beat you handily in the twisties, although you'll pull in the straights.
Ride it right and a hog can do plenty fine in the corners, and is most definitely not for just going to the bars. You just don't know how to ride one.
#48
10-08-2008 | 12:11 PM
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Hell I've got enough sense to know that my 14 cant out perform an R6 in the twisties and really dont care. But I do know that Harleys corner like crap next to even a sport touring bike. You just have to be careful on 900 pounds of steel. Yeah they will corner, but that's not what i would call good at cornering. Keep pushing it and you will see!
#49
10-08-2008 | 12:31 PM
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One last thing. When that front tire washed out on me the bars went to the right an it wanted to slap me down lowside. When I put my foot down it immediately jerked me back and to the left in the saddle. This made me pull back on the left grip which straightened up the bike. I realize that this easily could have gone completely the other way and thrown me into a highside and launched me. Yikes!
#50
10-09-2008 | 03:42 AM
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OK, going into work this morning I take this fun lefthander which bends about 180 degrees around, slightly uphill and banked nicely. I countersteer and lean the bike into the turn pretty agressively and get on the throttle a little. About 3/4 through the turn I feel the bike going out from under me towards the right, almost like the front end just slid out from under me (not positive but it didn't feel like the rear came around). With the bike leaning way over (low side) at about 35-40 mph I put my left foot down hard, let off throttle and the bike straightens up and I continue through the turn and on my way. I thinking holy **** what the hell just happened? Is it possible to counter steer too much? Conditions were good, no debris or gravel on road. Just looking for advice to correct my mistake.
- also a banked , uphill , fast , left hander .... which is fun to take at the limit.
- think that the entire bike moved "off line" , ie , it drifted at the point of
peak cornering load ( ie the apex of the bend ).
- if you play with cars , drifting is something that is accepted when running on edge.
- on a bike , its plain frightening !
- just need to slow down.
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