Pros/cons of ethanol in gas
#21
I haul it , and all our trailers have sealing issues at valves , trailers used exclusivly for ethanol REALLY have leak issues. And this is equiptment designed for it!!
#22
First of all, it's here to stay, like it or hate it.
That's all we get up here. And some is E-85. But you have to have a flex fuel vehicle designed for that.
We didn't wake up one morning, and crawl into an F-16, and fly off into the sunset. It took years to go from a rattling biplane to a jet.
Come on over, kick the pan a few times, and then go back and crawl on your 'new' one. Your's didn't get real 'nice' without some bumps along the way. But it sure is 'nice' now, isn't it?
Technology takes a while.
Alcohol contains less BTU's/gal, and delivers less energy when burned. Thus, the slight decrease in mileage.
I realize the vast majority of ppl on here, are not farm ppl. You see just one end of the line. The rest of the corn, the by product if you will, is still available as feed. It is a mash. And they are continually working and testing to make other products out of it.
We've been running it for years up here. I neither see more or less ppl rebuilding their motors because of it. Been running it in our small engines for years, too. 20 horse WheelHorse(1988), with over 1600 hrs on it, still original carb and fuel pump. My weedeater is over 15 yrs old. Leafblower is over 8. Boat motor is a '78, and I did put carb kits in it when I got it. Had been in storage for years.
As stated, and like DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid, it is hygroscopic. For us up North, means the ethanol will absorb any moisture in the fuel tank, no gas line freeze. When it's -30*, gas line freeze on the road, sux, besides being dangerous to your well being.
If it is drying out your seals, rubbers, etc., then they are constructed of the wrong material. That is why it was a hassle when they started to switch over, decades ago. But almost ALL of my engines have their original seals, hoses, etc.
It's by no means a cure all for our enegy woes. But anything that will prolong the oil we NEED for our v twins, specially old ones, I'll go with it, til something better comes around the corner.
That's all we get up here. And some is E-85. But you have to have a flex fuel vehicle designed for that.
We didn't wake up one morning, and crawl into an F-16, and fly off into the sunset. It took years to go from a rattling biplane to a jet.
Come on over, kick the pan a few times, and then go back and crawl on your 'new' one. Your's didn't get real 'nice' without some bumps along the way. But it sure is 'nice' now, isn't it?
Technology takes a while.
Alcohol contains less BTU's/gal, and delivers less energy when burned. Thus, the slight decrease in mileage.
I realize the vast majority of ppl on here, are not farm ppl. You see just one end of the line. The rest of the corn, the by product if you will, is still available as feed. It is a mash. And they are continually working and testing to make other products out of it.
We've been running it for years up here. I neither see more or less ppl rebuilding their motors because of it. Been running it in our small engines for years, too. 20 horse WheelHorse(1988), with over 1600 hrs on it, still original carb and fuel pump. My weedeater is over 15 yrs old. Leafblower is over 8. Boat motor is a '78, and I did put carb kits in it when I got it. Had been in storage for years.
As stated, and like DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid, it is hygroscopic. For us up North, means the ethanol will absorb any moisture in the fuel tank, no gas line freeze. When it's -30*, gas line freeze on the road, sux, besides being dangerous to your well being.
If it is drying out your seals, rubbers, etc., then they are constructed of the wrong material. That is why it was a hassle when they started to switch over, decades ago. But almost ALL of my engines have their original seals, hoses, etc.
It's by no means a cure all for our enegy woes. But anything that will prolong the oil we NEED for our v twins, specially old ones, I'll go with it, til something better comes around the corner.
#23
First of all, it's here to stay, like it or hate it.
That's all we get up here. And some is E-85. But you have to have a flex fuel vehicle designed for that.
We didn't wake up one morning, and crawl into an F-16, and fly off into the sunset. It took years to go from a rattling biplane to a jet.
Come on over, kick the pan a few times, and then go back and crawl on your 'new' one. Your's didn't get real 'nice' without some bumps along the way. But it sure is 'nice' now, isn't it?
Technology takes a while.
Alcohol contains less BTU's/gal, and delivers less energy when burned. Thus, the slight decrease in mileage.
I realize the vast majority of ppl on here, are not farm ppl. You see just one end of the line. The rest of the corn, the by product if you will, is still available as feed. It is a mash. And they are continually working and testing to make other products out of it.
We've been running it for years up here. I neither see more or less ppl rebuilding their motors because of it. Been running it in our small engines for years, too. 20 horse WheelHorse(1988), with over 1600 hrs on it, still original carb and fuel pump. My weedeater is over 15 yrs old. Leafblower is over 8. Boat motor is a '78, and I did put carb kits in it when I got it. Had been in storage for years.
As stated, and like DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid, it is hygroscopic. For us up North, means the ethanol will absorb any moisture in the fuel tank, no gas line freeze. When it's -30*, gas line freeze on the road, sux, besides being dangerous to your well being.
If it is drying out your seals, rubbers, etc., then they are constructed of the wrong material. That is why it was a hassle when they started to switch over, decades ago. But almost ALL of my engines have their original seals, hoses, etc.
It's by no means a cure all for our enegy woes. But anything that will prolong the oil we NEED for our v twins, specially old ones, I'll go with it, til something better comes around the corner.
That's all we get up here. And some is E-85. But you have to have a flex fuel vehicle designed for that.
We didn't wake up one morning, and crawl into an F-16, and fly off into the sunset. It took years to go from a rattling biplane to a jet.
Come on over, kick the pan a few times, and then go back and crawl on your 'new' one. Your's didn't get real 'nice' without some bumps along the way. But it sure is 'nice' now, isn't it?
Technology takes a while.
Alcohol contains less BTU's/gal, and delivers less energy when burned. Thus, the slight decrease in mileage.
I realize the vast majority of ppl on here, are not farm ppl. You see just one end of the line. The rest of the corn, the by product if you will, is still available as feed. It is a mash. And they are continually working and testing to make other products out of it.
We've been running it for years up here. I neither see more or less ppl rebuilding their motors because of it. Been running it in our small engines for years, too. 20 horse WheelHorse(1988), with over 1600 hrs on it, still original carb and fuel pump. My weedeater is over 15 yrs old. Leafblower is over 8. Boat motor is a '78, and I did put carb kits in it when I got it. Had been in storage for years.
As stated, and like DOT 3 and 4 brake fluid, it is hygroscopic. For us up North, means the ethanol will absorb any moisture in the fuel tank, no gas line freeze. When it's -30*, gas line freeze on the road, sux, besides being dangerous to your well being.
If it is drying out your seals, rubbers, etc., then they are constructed of the wrong material. That is why it was a hassle when they started to switch over, decades ago. But almost ALL of my engines have their original seals, hoses, etc.
It's by no means a cure all for our enegy woes. But anything that will prolong the oil we NEED for our v twins, specially old ones, I'll go with it, til something better comes around the corner.
OK, Gumby, laugh out loud, but we have a new Impala that says FlexFuel right on the trunk. I was swapping small block Chevys into older and newer cars clear back in high school and consider myself a pretty good basic mechanic but I have NO IDEA what FLEXFUEL means.
My wife liked the car and it followed us home. I've never even bothered to Google FLEXFUEL. I have some kind of aversion to anything promoted by libs. Once I learn what it is, I usually decide it makes no common sense. Not saying that's true of FLEXFUEL.
I don't think alcohol is the answer to our energy problems when compared to other options out there such as natural gas, etc.
BTW, have a great weekend. I'm sayin a prayer for those near Hanna.
JB
Last edited by JBaker421; 09-05-2008 at 04:44 AM.
#25
I always thought alchohol was fer drinkin not burnin!! It is a scam but better than no fuel I guess.Did u hear coldest winter in quite a while predicted???GLOBAL WARMING fans bundle up!!!
#27
the price increase of corn due to ethanol production has caused some ethanol plants to close. the price of corn has made the ethanol more costly. luckily i can still get non-ethanol products in alabama. misssouri went mandatory ethanol a couple of years ago but is looking at dropping that requirement due to mileage degradation.
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