bingo ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

You B a dummazzed, biker, too, huh?

 

Let's not flush the debate down the toilet by getting personal...It'll get closed faster then the Loud American Roadhouse did on a particular night in August...I'm not calling anyone dumb here, amazingly, I'm a biker just like you...hard to believe right?

I see some of you aren't giving me the benefit of the doubt, like I've asked, on the details in this case..no problemo...If you were, you'd agree that it was the IP that were in the place first. It doesn't matter if another copper from this forum was there earlier in the night and the climate wasn't to his liking....Different strokes for different folks I suppose. The climate changes in a place as the night goes on, especially at a rally...I'm not arguing their right for being in the bar, who was there first, what somebody was wearing...I'm arguing that a guy got jumped, he defended himself and that's that.

And to the poster who asked to have the copper and the HA switch places...This'll blow all y'alls mind, but if the copper attacked an HA for the simple fact that he was an HA and was usinf deadly physical force on him, doom on the HA for not using every means available to save his life....I would expect the copper to be put in jail after he recovered form his wounds, if he lived....And rightly so...

Go back and read the quick story of a HA/Pagan shootout(NY 2002) the resulted in a HA walking on murder charges because it was deterined he was defending his life....I agree with it 100%...If I haven't proven myself to be thetype of copper that gives everyone a fair shake and the benefit of doubt, then I've failed in my job to have you guys get to know me...

 

I was never inside the bar. I was outside and recognized the heavy 81 presence. Seems to me some of you folks are starting to take this personally for some reason. Ron, you come off as a really bitter man.

 

For the record. A choke hold is not now, nor has it ever been (in the past 25 years), a sanctioned, legal, hold by the police. And, it's not part of police training.

Now, am I saying that it's never been used? No, I'm not. People, when under stress, usually regress back to behavior that is more comfortable for them. Sometimes forgetting training.

 

too bad dunkin donuts doesnt serve beers they could just have hung out there and had all the comforts their used to. .... and that was said with a smile :-)

 

I've been trying that for a long time. No changing some folks minds. I might be the nicest guy they'll ever meet but we'd never get past hello because I wear a badge. So be it.

 

actually beer and donuts doesnt sound to bad either...

 

I'm not bitter, at least I don't think so, sorry if I gave you that impression. I just don't understand the defense of this scumbag by his LEO buddies.

This guy needs to be kicked off the force and his prior actions validate my and a lot of others stance on this subject.

 

I hear ya Stro...

Fight the good fight....stay safe....

 

baxter,you're a sick man.LOL.