Legally - If I put on turn signal mirrors, can I remove the front turn signals?
#11
good luck with the scoot, post pics when you get them.
#13
As already stated by others, this varies from state to state. Just because one state doesn't require turn signals doesn't mean other states don't.
#14
Several years ago I equipped a dirt bike to be (barely) street legal in Illinois. I had to add a Head light, Tail light (also this was the License plate light), and Horn. Turn signals (and the brake light I think) were not required but if you didn't have them (or if they were not DOT approved) you had to use hand signals.
This was in a small town and a local Cop stopped me on it. He pulled out a book to look up any equipment violation he could think of, didn't come up with any.
He did watch me closely for the hand signals every time he saw me on the street.
This was in a small town and a local Cop stopped me on it. He pulled out a book to look up any equipment violation he could think of, didn't come up with any.
He did watch me closely for the hand signals every time he saw me on the street.
#15
Here in Pa, the regs are written such that if the bike was originally equipped with them they need to be installed. I did get my ironhead passed thru inspection, using the mirrors with turn signals. As been said, "your mileage may very"
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It's been pointed out, but bears repeating: The laws vary from state to state. Check your state's laws. Also, if they are required, most times they have to be DOT approved, or meet FMVSS requirements. I'd bet those mirror-turn signals don't meet those standards. They'll be labeled so, if they do. If you use them, and they don't meet your states requirements, will you be zapped for it? Maybe & maybe not. Up to you to decide whether to take that chance. I've got front signals that don't meet specs on my Sloptail. They've been there for about 7 years. No tickets, but I know 2 places that will fail the bike on the annual inspection. I go elsewhere.
Edit: Hellfish, ain't no need to disrespect someone giving you good advice as you did OldFenderGuy with your little "bro" comment. Save it for someone who deserves it.
Edit: Hellfish, ain't no need to disrespect someone giving you good advice as you did OldFenderGuy with your little "bro" comment. Save it for someone who deserves it.
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#17
Sorry, I wasn't meaning to disrespect anybody ..I was just goofing around ..hense the ...but point taken about local laws. I'll check and see what Texas has in store for me! Thanks again guys.
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Being I'm in Texas, too, I have this link saved: http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/msb/txm...tm#Chapter%203
#19
You can check your state here;
http://www.amadirectlink.com/legisltn/laws.asp
#20
if you want to be really specific then the answer is yes... IF
if there is DOT standards for brightness, has to be over a certain amount from a certain distance, a few small LEDs might not be enough to replace a big bulb, even if they look brighter up close. the light scatters and it becomes a lot dimmer the farther you get. If they were so great they would be standard on all the bikes by now.
so beware your turn signals might become less visible even if they seem brighter at first. Placebo effect.
but the idea of signals in the mirror is really great! that should REALLY clean up the front.
if there is DOT standards for brightness, has to be over a certain amount from a certain distance, a few small LEDs might not be enough to replace a big bulb, even if they look brighter up close. the light scatters and it becomes a lot dimmer the farther you get. If they were so great they would be standard on all the bikes by now.
so beware your turn signals might become less visible even if they seem brighter at first. Placebo effect.
but the idea of signals in the mirror is really great! that should REALLY clean up the front.
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