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Loud pipes
#151
07-30-2006, 06:24 PM
RE: Loud pipes
after reading all of the responses to this poll i would like to put my $.02 in.
i waited for years to have a harley and yes, before i picked it up i had the stocks replaced with a set of python's. it's a choice. yes, i wanted to sound harley, yes, i want people to look,yes, i wanted better performance and yes, i love the way they sound. quit crying and roll up your window and run the air cond.
i waited for years to have a harley and yes, before i picked it up i had the stocks replaced with a set of python's. it's a choice. yes, i wanted to sound harley, yes, i want people to look,yes, i wanted better performance and yes, i love the way they sound. quit crying and roll up your window and run the air cond.
#152
07-30-2006, 09:28 PM
RE: Loud pipes
Thanks for the Poll. When I was younger I thought slightly louder pipes were cool. But louder pipes are not a safety item. Example : Aug. 1999, My Bike had Python 2 pipes. An underinsured lady floored her Ford Escort, I Did everything I could to avoid her hitting me. Lights,Horn blowing, Plus my louder pipes. She hit me and I flew 300 feet. When the State Highway Patrol, and other Law enforcement showed up, she said did not see or hear me, and So What its only a Biker. The Patrolman came down and checked on me. That was how I found out how far I had been Thrown, and what she said. She did not know, he was a biker also. We had ridden on several occasions together. He rode a BMW. Anyways I was not expected to live, but a lot of people prayed for me. It took me a long time to be able to walk again. I have internal and external damage to just about every major part of my body. I am in constant pain. So loud pipes do not necessarily save lives. And yes I still ride. The sound of a group of Harleys just stirs my soul.
The first Truck I saw on My ride home from the Hospital was a Harley-Davidson Semi. Its in my blood.
The first Truck I saw on My ride home from the Hospital was a Harley-Davidson Semi. Its in my blood.
#153
07-30-2006, 10:18 PM
RE: Loud pipes
Soamething else that sort of cracks me up is the "I want it to sound like a Harley" comments. To me that would be the same as asking your wife to have plastic surgery so she would look more like your wife.
What you end up with doesn't sound like a Harley, it sounds like a Harley with loud pipes on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What you end up with doesn't sound like a Harley, it sounds like a Harley with loud pipes on it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
#154
07-30-2006, 10:34 PM
RE: Loud pipes
Another funny thing.
My wife & I were riding the EG today & a guy with straight pipes pulled up in a lane beside us. My wife pointed out that he had in earplugs. Those nice orange one's. I guess this way he can annoy everyone but himself.
Several have mentioned the boom box speakers in cars - at least I've never seen one of the kids in those cars wearing earplugs.
My wife & I were riding the EG today & a guy with straight pipes pulled up in a lane beside us. My wife pointed out that he had in earplugs. Those nice orange one's. I guess this way he can annoy everyone but himself.
Several have mentioned the boom box speakers in cars - at least I've never seen one of the kids in those cars wearing earplugs.
#155
07-30-2006, 10:40 PM
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RE: Loud pipes
My last two hogs had open pipes. I LIKED them! It is my choice!!! This bike has Vance and Hines with THunder Headers, I will say they sound "Better" than just open pipes, but they are not whimpy. I do not care what the tree huggers say - I love my pipes, even if they are quiet to me [:@]
#156
07-30-2006, 11:42 PM
RE: Loud pipes
ORIGINAL: Capt. Sparrow
Although I won't answer your poll, (it's obvious where you're coming from by the way it's worded.), I will comment on the fact that YOU HEARD THEM!
Cagers don't look for us, so we need to make ourselves noticed.
BTW, I've had Reinharts, V&H 2 into1 Pro Pipes and straight pipes over the years.
I don't wear a helmet either, sounds like another strike in your book.
Although I won't answer your poll, (it's obvious where you're coming from by the way it's worded.), I will comment on the fact that YOU HEARD THEM!
Cagers don't look for us, so we need to make ourselves noticed.
BTW, I've had Reinharts, V&H 2 into1 Pro Pipes and straight pipes over the years.
I don't wear a helmet either, sounds like another strike in your book.
If you want to be noticed, then wear brighter clothing and turn the brights on in the day with reflective gear at night. All I've noticed louder pipes accomplish is it makes the car drivers stop paying attention to what’s in front of them to find out where the noise is coming from, thus drifting into other lanes. Only time I like louder pipes is when pulling up beside cars with window down and the idiots are on the cell phone. I stay right beside then in lower gears. And before you get bent out of shape, I have loud(er) pipes on the new ride, and had Hookers on a FXD. The idea that "loud pipes save lives" is one of the dumber myths by people trying to justify their loud pipes. I like them loud(er) because it sounds great......Then again, I also don't run through the neighborhood like an idiot at 4000rpm showing off and pissing off the neighbors. The EPA got to the motorcycle industry and we're now feeling the effects, not long before they go after the loud pipes, stronger than are now. I've rode through several towns already that have noise ordnances in effect within city limits, targeting the motorcyclist.
#157
07-31-2006, 12:17 AM
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RE: Loud pipes
The earplugs are because the noise of the wind will damage your hearing over time. I doubt he wears them because of his own exhaust.
And the idiots in the cars with the loud stereos . . you can BET that some of them do just that (wear earplugs). Geez, you can't see in their tinted windows anyway. They are listening to music so loud that it isn't even for their own pleasure anymore, it's 100% about showing off.
I don't care for extremely loud exhaust either, but I don't have motorcycles waking me up at 3 am on a regular basis like those boom boxes do (from a mile or more away).
I have to make room in my life everyday in little ways for people to enjoy their hobbies: muscle cars, RVs, crotch rockets, ricers (the cars) with coffee cans welded on the "exhaust", Hummers, skiers and ski boats that'll ruin your fishing inshore, loud offshore boats, jet skiers zipping all around, bicyclists on the roads that you gotta dodge, kids on skateboards that cross without looking, noisy ultra-light aircraft, hot air balloons (ever have one of them go over your house at 100 feet at 7am on a Sunday morning?? It'll scare the crap out of you when they light that thing), absurd jacked up 4x4s, classic early 1900's automobiles that you gotta wait for an opp to pass, etc, etc, etc. AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE COURTEOUS, it's a small price to pay to allow people to have some fun so that I can have my fun as well.
If someone in a Hummer hits me in my small car in the side, even at 25 MPH, I'm a dead man because my unprotected skull will bounce off of the bumper of that Hummer. I'm not saying we oughta yank Hummers off the road, I'm just saying a noisy exhaust is pretty low on my list of the real problems in our country.
Kevin
And the idiots in the cars with the loud stereos . . you can BET that some of them do just that (wear earplugs). Geez, you can't see in their tinted windows anyway. They are listening to music so loud that it isn't even for their own pleasure anymore, it's 100% about showing off.
I don't care for extremely loud exhaust either, but I don't have motorcycles waking me up at 3 am on a regular basis like those boom boxes do (from a mile or more away).
I have to make room in my life everyday in little ways for people to enjoy their hobbies: muscle cars, RVs, crotch rockets, ricers (the cars) with coffee cans welded on the "exhaust", Hummers, skiers and ski boats that'll ruin your fishing inshore, loud offshore boats, jet skiers zipping all around, bicyclists on the roads that you gotta dodge, kids on skateboards that cross without looking, noisy ultra-light aircraft, hot air balloons (ever have one of them go over your house at 100 feet at 7am on a Sunday morning?? It'll scare the crap out of you when they light that thing), absurd jacked up 4x4s, classic early 1900's automobiles that you gotta wait for an opp to pass, etc, etc, etc. AS LONG AS PEOPLE ARE COURTEOUS, it's a small price to pay to allow people to have some fun so that I can have my fun as well.
If someone in a Hummer hits me in my small car in the side, even at 25 MPH, I'm a dead man because my unprotected skull will bounce off of the bumper of that Hummer. I'm not saying we oughta yank Hummers off the road, I'm just saying a noisy exhaust is pretty low on my list of the real problems in our country.
Kevin
#158
07-31-2006, 09:45 AM
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RE: Loud pipes
You go to Daytona for bike week and go down main street racking your pipes. It's great and it sounds like money to local merchants. You do the same thing near hospitals, nursing homes, funeral homes, a family crossing the street, etc. you draw negative attention. My point is, it's not the pipes, it's the unwanted attention we get when we make them extremely loud at the wrong time that will have LEOs ticketing us for not having baffles in.
The old saying "with freedom comes responsibility" rings true. Let's keep our unbaffled pipes but be smart enough to not be punished for having them since they're already illegal for street use.
The old saying "with freedom comes responsibility" rings true. Let's keep our unbaffled pipes but be smart enough to not be punished for having them since they're already illegal for street use.
#159
07-31-2006, 01:17 PM
RE: Loud pipes
ORIGINAL: DragonNester
You go to Daytona for bike week and go down main street racking your pipes. It's great and it sounds like money to local merchants. You do the same thing near hospitals, nursing homes, funeral homes, a family crossing the street, etc. you draw negative attention. My point is, it's not the pipes, it's the unwanted attention we get when we make them extremely loud at the wrong time that will have LEOs ticketing us for not having baffles in.
The old saying "with freedom comes responsibility" rings true. Let's keep our unbaffled pipes but be smart enough to not be punished for having them since they're already illegal for street use.
You go to Daytona for bike week and go down main street racking your pipes. It's great and it sounds like money to local merchants. You do the same thing near hospitals, nursing homes, funeral homes, a family crossing the street, etc. you draw negative attention. My point is, it's not the pipes, it's the unwanted attention we get when we make them extremely loud at the wrong time that will have LEOs ticketing us for not having baffles in.
The old saying "with freedom comes responsibility" rings true. Let's keep our unbaffled pipes but be smart enough to not be punished for having them since they're already illegal for street use.
I have baffled but still loud V&H radius'. I do not go screaming thru the subdivision morning and night, and don't do the green light drags either. There is a time and place to roar, and other for not stepping on others.
#160
07-31-2006, 01:42 PM
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RE: Loud pipes
people like you scare the hell out of me
leave me and those that think like me the #@#% alone
loud pipes are not the problem it is people who take offence to everything
my pipes are loud if I want them to be I am a senior and live in a senior area
none of my neighbors complain because I take it easy and I leave at 5:15 to go to work
leave me and those that think like me the #@#% alone
loud pipes are not the problem it is people who take offence to everything
my pipes are loud if I want them to be I am a senior and live in a senior area
none of my neighbors complain because I take it easy and I leave at 5:15 to go to work
ORIGINAL: roadglidin
Update on Ct.s "loud exhaust" battleground. On 3/6/06 a hearing took place on a proposed law concearning loud motorcycle exhaust. I am a C.M.R.A. member (Cts version of ABATE) and I oppose this law to go into affect. The law was to allow police to revoke your registaration on the spot for a SECOND violation (or more) within a years time. You can view the full text of the bill at www.cga.ct.gov/ and type in bill #5487.
Connecticut riders are under attack, especially those in the vicinity of Litchfields Troop L barracks. The surrounding area has morphed into an affluent-artsy-trendy weekend playground for the NYC executive who "dont want to smell the cow or horse manure, or hear motorcycles period". Unfortunately people with money buy political clout and pressure the local authorities.
Back to the proposed bill and what it means...This is just NOT going to affect Connecticut (and WTF ARE ya going to do about it, huh??) and the next step will be to completely outlaw ANY modifications to your personal property ie:your motorcycle. The point is where this new "law" will be headed and how its to be enforced. Currently, Ct. troopers DO NOT comply with law and do the proper decible testing with the proper equipment. (does your local police do the proper testing?) Yet based on a "personal opinion of a particular officer" you'll be ticketed and forced to jump through hoops. Whatever your feeling is on exhaust (and I have my opinions believe me!) the proposed and current enforcement of the law is outlandish. IF a noise bill is to be passed into law, it should NOT excempt diesel trucks, cars, busses or even construction equipment. This is not fair to motorcyclist as the answer is OBVIOUS why we are being singled out! Could you imagine the cost to private-state-local business if all their trucks on the road were FORCED to comply with a new noise law?
Im glad someone had the ***** to start this thread. A few of the replys are simply arrogant and out of line. Any exhaust which has been modified or changed for SOUND pleasure needs the owner/rider to modify his or her own behavior towards others. Nothing is worse than some narcisistic idiot blatting his "stait pipes" for no reason other than "Um I like the way it sounds". IMO, this individule deserves to pay a hefty fine period for the behavior. But THIS behavior hurts the fellow BROTHERS who also ride. (note* I did not say YOUR behavior!) And the f'n cop doesnt discriminate idiotic behavior of that individule versus singling out any biker for any reason and busting nuts. The new noise laws will allow this form of profiling. As riders we are either part of the solution or you ARE the problem. There are numerous performance exhaust on the market which allow the rider to slide under the microscope without a second glance and satisfy the owner for its "sound". This does not apply to strictly HARLEY owners! And as for the "safety" feature of EXTREMELY loud pipes. Be real. It certainly seems to get some the attention they crave for, but learning to ride and maneuver the motorcycle and being aware of your surroundings are more important aspects to riding. Proper technique is better than any helmet or loud drag pipe on the market. Nuff said, join your local bikers rights org NOW. TOM, Ct. motorcycle rights org. member and bikers rights activist.
Update on Ct.s "loud exhaust" battleground. On 3/6/06 a hearing took place on a proposed law concearning loud motorcycle exhaust. I am a C.M.R.A. member (Cts version of ABATE) and I oppose this law to go into affect. The law was to allow police to revoke your registaration on the spot for a SECOND violation (or more) within a years time. You can view the full text of the bill at www.cga.ct.gov/ and type in bill #5487.
Connecticut riders are under attack, especially those in the vicinity of Litchfields Troop L barracks. The surrounding area has morphed into an affluent-artsy-trendy weekend playground for the NYC executive who "dont want to smell the cow or horse manure, or hear motorcycles period". Unfortunately people with money buy political clout and pressure the local authorities.
Back to the proposed bill and what it means...This is just NOT going to affect Connecticut (and WTF ARE ya going to do about it, huh??) and the next step will be to completely outlaw ANY modifications to your personal property ie:your motorcycle. The point is where this new "law" will be headed and how its to be enforced. Currently, Ct. troopers DO NOT comply with law and do the proper decible testing with the proper equipment. (does your local police do the proper testing?) Yet based on a "personal opinion of a particular officer" you'll be ticketed and forced to jump through hoops. Whatever your feeling is on exhaust (and I have my opinions believe me!) the proposed and current enforcement of the law is outlandish. IF a noise bill is to be passed into law, it should NOT excempt diesel trucks, cars, busses or even construction equipment. This is not fair to motorcyclist as the answer is OBVIOUS why we are being singled out! Could you imagine the cost to private-state-local business if all their trucks on the road were FORCED to comply with a new noise law?
Im glad someone had the ***** to start this thread. A few of the replys are simply arrogant and out of line. Any exhaust which has been modified or changed for SOUND pleasure needs the owner/rider to modify his or her own behavior towards others. Nothing is worse than some narcisistic idiot blatting his "stait pipes" for no reason other than "Um I like the way it sounds". IMO, this individule deserves to pay a hefty fine period for the behavior. But THIS behavior hurts the fellow BROTHERS who also ride. (note* I did not say YOUR behavior!) And the f'n cop doesnt discriminate idiotic behavior of that individule versus singling out any biker for any reason and busting nuts. The new noise laws will allow this form of profiling. As riders we are either part of the solution or you ARE the problem. There are numerous performance exhaust on the market which allow the rider to slide under the microscope without a second glance and satisfy the owner for its "sound". This does not apply to strictly HARLEY owners! And as for the "safety" feature of EXTREMELY loud pipes. Be real. It certainly seems to get some the attention they crave for, but learning to ride and maneuver the motorcycle and being aware of your surroundings are more important aspects to riding. Proper technique is better than any helmet or loud drag pipe on the market. Nuff said, join your local bikers rights org NOW. TOM, Ct. motorcycle rights org. member and bikers rights activist.